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Post #274,078 by tuberculosis 11/27/06 2:33:49 PM 11/27/06 2:35:03 PM Reply	That kind of weasel won't get you a job And I said 'garden variety' [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer] Edited by tuberculosis Nov. 27, 2006, 02:35:03 PM EST Expand All History
Post #274,079 by folkert 11/27/06 2:36:54 PM Reply	This line of questioning wouldn't get you a candidate for the job in the first place. You knocked out many worth while one even before you stop to consider you rant. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #274,080 by crazy 11/27/06 2:43:30 PM Reply	Whoa The key issue was guiding you toward a reasonable doable solution, at least to get you thinking along those lines. But since you really don't have the programming background, you attempted a brute force response (which is typical for non-programmers) and then got upset when he refocused. There is absolutely NO WAY your anticipated solution would have been workable, even with all the memory available in PAE. Didn't matter. So he pointed you back to the simple original requirements. But rather than take the direction, you got silly.
Post #274,081 by folkert 11/27/06 2:47:43 PM Reply	No he got downright rude. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #274,095 by tuberculosis 11/27/06 3:48:04 PM Reply	I'm not trying to be rude I'm trying to help you. When I say PAE is out of bounds - accept it and try a new avenue. Don't spend time defending it as a choice. Your interviewer has specific things he wants to see. This is no different than asking you to reverse a string, watching you allocate space for a new one, and then me refocusing to say "OK - but the string is ginormous and there is no more memory available - now what will you do". Because I want to see the in-place solution. You said you want to be a programmer. I'm happy to help you achieve that and coach you through what passes as interviewing these days. The really-hard-puzzle-solve-this-on-the-spot interview is very popular now. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]

Steve Yegge (who he? - ed) on Perl - (pwhysall) - (62) - Nov. 25, 2006, 07:28:41 PM EST

IRLRPD. (new thread) - (Another Scott) - Nov. 25, 2006, 07:54:59 PM EST

He worked for Amazon for many years - (tuberculosis) - (60) - Nov. 25, 2006, 08:42:36 PM EST

Well based on that ... - (folkert) - (59) - Nov. 25, 2006, 09:50:54 PM EST

Key factors are - (tuberculosis) - (58) - Nov. 25, 2006, 10:08:42 PM EST

do it all the time - (boxley) - Nov. 25, 2006, 10:54:26 PM EST

I have never had an under spec'd system. - (folkert) - (56) - Nov. 26, 2006, 01:56:19 PM EST

More to the point is will it fit on one machine? - (tuberculosis) - (55) - Nov. 26, 2006, 04:44:19 PM EST

I guess I think to simply. - (folkert) - (22) - Nov. 26, 2006, 05:09:35 PM EST

You would filewalk for every query? - (crazy) - (18) - Nov. 26, 2006, 05:22:25 PM EST

RAMFS? -NT - (folkert) - (17) - Nov. 26, 2006, 05:34:52 PM EST

Doesn't matter - (crazy) - (5) - Nov. 26, 2006, 05:49:53 PM EST

That would be a radix-search, I think. - (static) - (3) - Nov. 26, 2006, 05:59:13 PM EST

Nah, you want a hash - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Nov. 26, 2006, 11:18:48 PM EST

I thought a radix search was also O(1). - (static) - (1) - Nov. 26, 2006, 11:51:29 PM EST

Gah - my bad - (tuberculosis) - Nov. 27, 2006, 12:27:44 AM EST

Also, I just thought about your file size - (crazy) - Nov. 26, 2006, 06:06:09 PM EST

On a 32 bit machine? -NT - (tuberculosis) - (10) - Nov. 26, 2006, 10:52:50 PM EST

Ever heard of PAE? - (folkert) - (9) - Nov. 26, 2006, 10:56:33 PM EST

I'd call that exotic technology -NT - (tuberculosis) - (8) - Nov. 26, 2006, 11:11:49 PM EST

No, it is bone stock on everything since the P3 from Intel - (folkert) - (7) - Nov. 27, 2006, 02:18:48 PM EST

And AMD? PowerPC? ARM? - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Nov. 27, 2006, 02:30:16 PM EST

You said COMMON 32-bit - (folkert) - (5) - Nov. 27, 2006, 02:35:31 PM EST

That kind of weasel won't get you a job - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Nov. 27, 2006, 02:35:03 PM EST

This line of questioning wouldn't get you a candidate for - (folkert) - (3) - Nov. 27, 2006, 02:36:54 PM EST

Whoa - (crazy) - (2) - Nov. 27, 2006, 02:43:30 PM EST

No he got downright rude. -NT - (folkert) - (1) - Nov. 27, 2006, 02:47:43 PM EST

I'm not trying to be rude - (tuberculosis) - Nov. 27, 2006, 03:48:04 PM EST

Where did you get 1G? - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Nov. 26, 2006, 10:50:05 PM EST

Not all 9 digit numbers are valid. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Nov. 26, 2006, 11:08:48 PM EST

I assumed so - (tuberculosis) - Nov. 26, 2006, 11:15:44 PM EST

something you forgot, what lawyer to hire - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 26, 2006, 05:40:12 PM EST

Nah - (crazy) - Nov. 26, 2006, 05:51:36 PM EST

We talked about this one before - (admin) - (6) - Nov. 26, 2006, 10:14:49 PM EST

We did - he didn't - (tuberculosis) - (5) - Nov. 26, 2006, 11:06:33 PM EST

Just saying... - (admin) - (4) - Nov. 26, 2006, 11:14:33 PM EST

But we hardly talk about programming at all anymore - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Nov. 26, 2006, 11:18:18 PM EST

:-) - (Another Scott) - (2) - Nov. 26, 2006, 11:42:56 PM EST

I agree on the eyeballs. - (static) - Nov. 26, 2006, 11:59:12 PM EST

I put most of my programming rants on my blog - (tuberculosis) - Nov. 27, 2006, 12:26:11 AM EST

non programmer answer, append a 0,1 or2 - (boxley) - (15) - Nov. 27, 2006, 05:45:45 PM EST

PICK?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? - (crazy) - (5) - Nov. 27, 2006, 06:40:21 PM EST

dont knock it until you have tried it, recently -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Nov. 27, 2006, 07:58:22 PM EST

I've spent the last 20 years systematically killing it - (crazy) - (3) - Nov. 27, 2006, 09:06:38 PM EST

again, see what the needs are and then ask what the solution - (boxley) - (2) - Nov. 27, 2006, 10:58:55 PM EST

One trick pony - (crazy) - (1) - Nov. 27, 2006, 11:06:48 PM EST

If that is the trick you need use it -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 28, 2006, 06:59:22 AM EST

The key is to stay off the disk - (tuberculosis) - (8) - Nov. 27, 2006, 06:44:04 PM EST

CramFS in RAM. -NT - (folkert) - (6) - Nov. 27, 2006, 07:27:32 PM EST

That's not a solution either - (tuberculosis) - (5) - Nov. 27, 2006, 08:14:50 PM EST

Okay, at this point... - (folkert) - (4) - Nov. 27, 2006, 09:45:49 PM EST

Sure - just want to give you a taste - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Nov. 27, 2006, 10:58:48 PM EST

personally I hate programming, I like debugging - (boxley) - Nov. 27, 2006, 11:05:54 PM EST

Cheaper at Bookpool, btw. - (admin) - Nov. 27, 2006, 11:15:28 PM EST

ICLRPD - (drewk) - Nov. 27, 2006, 11:39:45 PM EST

Math isnt my strong suit but - (boxley) - Nov. 27, 2006, 08:25:07 PM EST

I hope you're going to outline the solution. :-) - (Another Scott) - (3) - Nov. 27, 2006, 09:33:15 PM EST

Admin did it very nicely. - (crazy) - (1) - Nov. 27, 2006, 09:49:53 PM EST

D'Oh! Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - Nov. 27, 2006, 09:58:57 PM EST

Cool sort paper - (crazy) - Nov. 27, 2006, 09:55:50 PM EST

Taking a stab - (ChrisR) - (2) - Nov. 27, 2006, 10:07:24 PM EST

Still doesn't beat O(1) :-) -NT - (admin) - (1) - Nov. 27, 2006, 10:13:27 PM EST

Ok, I read the answer you gave... - (ChrisR) - Nov. 27, 2006, 10:19:51 PM EST

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