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New Started by the Pilgrims?
Not according to the Smithsonian - and they should know because they have the paperwork.

One of their series on American myths just before the Bicentenial was on Thanksgiving. It was signed into our holiday schedule by Abraham Lincoln under pressure from one of those periodic Christian revivals we have in this country.

The Thanksgiving story was made up completely out of whole cloth, just as the Pilgrim's costumes were, and their hunting wild turkeys with a blunderbuss - a splatter gun used as a short range anti-boarding weapon on ships. I think the costumes were copied from inside the lid of a box of Dutch Master cigars.

The only actual record of a "feast" in the Plymouth colony was a note by one of the leaders lamenting an out-of-control beer bash that lasted days and ate up much of the winter supplies. He mentioned that some Indians came by when they smelled the food and were sent out to get deer. The sanctimonious thanks to God part was completely made up in Lincoln's day.

If turkeys were eaten - completely unconfirmed - they were likely Mexican turkeys brought over on the ship. By time of the Pilgrims' voyage Mexican turkeys had completely displaced the peacock as festival bird in Europe and it certainly would have been within reason for them to bring some.

Wild turkeys are smart, fast and extremely difficult to bag. Many enthusiastic turkey hunters with modern gear have never been able to actually get one - and you certainly aren't likely to get one with a blunderbuss.
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Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Nov. 22, 2006, 12:48:03 PM EST
New Links please
New Links
[link|http://www.infoplease.com/spot/tgturkey1.html|Infoplease.com]
[link|http://www.history.com/minisites/thanksgiving/viewPage?pageId=874|History.com]
[link|http://www.allabouthistory.org/thanksgiving-history.htm|allabouthistory.com]

Looks like Lincoln formalized it on its current date.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)
New None of that backs Andrew's core statements

The only actual record of a "feast" in the Plymouth colony was a note by one of the leaders lamenting an out-of-control beer bash that lasted days and ate up much of the winter supplies. He mentioned that some Indians came by when they smelled the food and were sent out to get deer. The sanctimonious thanks to God part was completely made up in Lincoln's day.


I want to see that.
New Well, the middle one admits the feast was secular . . .
. . and that the "day of thanksgiving" a couple years later definitely did not include a feast.

According to the Smithsonian article the only actual record of the first one was a complaint by one of the leaders about the rowdiness and amount of beer and supplies consumed, and mention that Indians wandered in and were sent out to get deer.

Most commentators are reluctant to be as brutal about it as Smithsonian Magazine was.
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New Unfortunately 1975 was before much . . .
. . was linked on the Internet. Thanksgiving, Paul Revere's ride, the Boston Tea Party and other mythology were published one to an issue of Smithsonian Magazine (to which I had a subscription - but don't believe I kept those issues) during the year before the Bicentenial.

One distraught citizen wrote a letter saying, "I know all this stuff must be true because you have all the evidence, but isn't this the wrong time to be publishing it?".
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New Some more linkies.
[link|http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1127/p13s02-lign.html|Christian Science Monitor], via the [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving#Pilgrims|Wikipedia].

Cheers,
Scott.
     A question to our non-American members - (lincoln) - (11)
         No, though rural, UK villages may celebrate the harvest. -NT - (warmachine)
         Canada does - (Steve Lowe)
         Started by the Pilgrims? - (Andrew Grygus) - (6)
             Links please -NT - (crazy) - (5)
                 Links - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                     None of that backs Andrew's core statements - (crazy) - (1)
                         Well, the middle one admits the feast was secular . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                 Unfortunately 1975 was before much . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                     Some more linkies. - (Another Scott)
         Not in Belgium - (scoenye)
         Not in Australia. - (static)

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