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New Best solution?
Let's examine a pullout. Think about all the sources of violence and what would happen.
  1. Violence directed against Americans -- Fewer Americans, fewer targets, less violence.

  2. Violence directed against Iraqis seen to be working with/for Americans -- Fewer Americans, less reason to believe Iraqis are working with them, less violence.

  3. Sectarian violence against Iraqis by out-of-state players -- Unless we plan on patroling the border indefinitely this doesn't change without a political solution, so the absence of troops won't make a difference.

  4. Iraqi-on-Iraqi sectarian violence -- I don't think we're currently stopping much of it anyway, so I don't see much increase there.

So what is it that would be so bad if we left?

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New Dunno.
When the US "pulls out", assuming things are little changed from the current conditions, I expect the Green Zone will either become an even more fortified bunker, or that it will be over-run quite frequently by shelling and car bombings. Without the appearance of a government there, it's hard to see things doing anything but spiraling faster down the toilet. Locking down Baghdad can stop the car bombs, but it can't be done for long or the city will quit functioning.

I don't see a simple solution. If we (the US and International Community) sent in 400,000 more troops, then presumably Baghdad could be pacified. But for how long? How would it help solve the problem of developing a capable military and police force that isn't tied to the militias? Until the ties to the militias are addressed, it seems hopeless.

I do think that violence will get worse once we leave. The Iraqis depend on us for logistics and they don't have an air force. Without those things, it's hard to see how they can keep the country together when so many want to kill the others.

I fear that no matter what we do, things will get much worse in Iraq. I wonder whether there will be pieces worth putting back together by the time it's done. It's unfortunate that it's so much easier to destroy things than to build them in the first place.

:-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New Best solution is obvious.
Don't go in in the first place.

Since that's no longer a probablity, the next best is: instead of building a fence along the Mexican border, build it around Iraq - and don't go back in until the noise stops.

Otherwise, break it up into Kurdestan, West Iran and East Syria and let those three parties worry about it.
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New Re: Best solution?
I think a good idea of what would happen can be estimated by looking at [link|http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/beyond/etc/map.html|this map] and comparing it with [link|http://www.srpska-mreza.com/MAPS/Ethnic-groups/map-State-Dept.html|this map]. Hey, it worked in Yugoslavia...
Just a few thoughts,

Danno
     Iraq's white-collar crime - (Ashton) - (5)
         Best solution? - (drewk) - (3)
             Dunno. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 Best solution is obvious. - (Andrew Grygus)
             Re: Best solution? - (danreck)
         sounds like russia's first years under yeltsin - (boxley)

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