Post #27,341
2/5/02 8:03:41 AM
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Be glad I am not your manager
This is a workplace, not a playground.
Get over worrying about girl germs, OK? Either you get along with her or not. Either she does the job or not. If she doesn't make gender an issue, then you shouldn't. If she does then it is her making it an issue that is the issue, and not her gender. If she doesn't but it bothers you, then you are the one with a problem.
Is that really so hard?
Ben
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Post #27,343
2/5/02 8:37:16 AM
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A little harsh, but I kind of agree
Given his history, I can understand why he's leery, and we don't know what this new one may be doing to trigger the comparison.
But, like you said, unless she explicitly makes an issue of it, then he shouldn't either or he'll be the one accused of ... something. Besides, from the sound of it there is plenty of reason to criticize her for the way she works without resorting to the hot-button issues.
We have to fight the terrorists as if there were no rules and preserve our open society as if there were no terrorists. -- [link|http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/05/opinion/BIO-FRIEDMAN.html|Thomas Friedman]
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Post #27,397
2/5/02 12:51:21 PM
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I think there's been more read into this
than what I meant. The last woman I worked for caused me major problems and was the reason I had to change my employer when I didn't want to go looking for a new job. I agree that her gender shouldn't be a problem, but I see where her management style and personality have the potential to become focal points. Maybe I shouldn't have pointed it out in the post. Mea culpa.
Remember that I never interviewed with her or any of her staff, but I was shuffled onto her team against my original manager's wishes. She hasn't been involved in giving assignments, she does not have a technical background, she does not have a solid understanding on how the databases are designed nor how the business logic works in the code. My original boss was one of the guys who designed and wrote the system that she manages now.
I guess that I am used to and prefer technically-oriented managers.
BConnors
"Prepare for metamorphosis. Ready, Kafka?"
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Post #27,435
2/5/02 6:29:03 PM
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The reason why I read stuff in
If her being a woman is not an issue, then just mention that she is a woman. Don't lead up to it, pause expectantly, devote a paragraph to that sentence, then proceed on.
Had you merely mentioned that you were managed by a woman, I wouldn't have responded. The fact that
you
went
to
so
much
trouble
just
to
make
it
clear
is what set off the red flags.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #27,501
2/6/02 10:52:38 AM
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No quarrel with your explanation
You pointed out exactly how I led up to something that wasn't supposed to be the main point, but was, based upon how I typed it in. You handed me my head on a platter as I deserved. No offense taken - you are right that my posting style led you where it ended up.
BConnors
"Prepare for metamorphosis. Ready, Kafka?"
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Post #27,891
2/9/02 1:08:36 AM
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Most miscommunications are obvious..in retrospect
My apologies in turn for jumping so quickly.
The other issues that you have with her are classic significant issues. It sucks to have someone who doesn't understand the issues be making decisions without getting any input from people who do. In my experience (much corporate mythology notwithstanding) the best management does not micromanage...
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #27,691
2/7/02 3:53:20 PM
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I suddenly remember
the reason I avoid IWETHEY so much these days. :(
"We are all born originals -- why is it so many of us die copies?"
- Edward Young
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Post #27,846
2/8/02 3:54:20 PM
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Wow...that was tame.
But the point was well made all the same
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
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Post #27,852
2/8/02 4:36:11 PM
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There was one?!? Can you clue me in on what it was, please?
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