Post #270,367
10/15/06 10:13:30 AM
|
Wasn't there alot of chatter
about Republican tactics during the elections
[link|http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/14/congressman.contracts.ap/index.html|http://www.cnn.com/2...cts.ap/index.html]
How many more "unidentified sources" are going to uncover some hint of impropriety, no matter how thin.
I mean, we have a camping trip (where everyone says they simply camped" and now we have this.
It would be nice to have a platform...but if this way works for you...I guess its all about results, isn't it?
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
|
Post #270,369
10/15/06 10:17:31 AM
|
thats different :-)
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
|
Post #270,371
10/15/06 11:01:01 AM
|
Somehow I think
that I may be shown 100 levels of detail about exactly why "thats different" at some point.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
|
Post #270,375
10/15/06 12:25:27 PM
|
I guess you go with what works
and has always worked. What an indictment of the American people.
Style over substance.
Promises over actions.
Platforms over performance.
That's our politics and policies, our educational system, our business, and our culture.
We are the buzzword country, the glib people.
Marketing is what we are anymore.
Bah. The 'Big Lie' triumphed here a long time ago. Truth is determined by how often a phrase is repeated, and how much is spent in a marketing campaign.
The Repos ARE no worse than the Dems would be, if THEY wielded absolute power, true - but right now? It's time for the Dems to do their jobs (this century) as the janitors of the Republican party - go and fix the messes made. The 'Profit-taking' cycle has got to end, we have got to stop eating ourselves alive.
What sucks is that civil liberties are now probably permanently damaged, as a politician relinquishing power over citizenry is almost unheard of.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
| |
Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
|
|
Post #270,399
10/15/06 9:18:21 PM
|
What goes around, comes around.
jb4
"When the final history is written in Iraq, [link|http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmate/2006/tmate060926.gif|it'll look just like a comma.]"
— George W. Bush, 24 Sep 06
|
Post #270,403
10/15/06 9:29:20 PM
|
Funny how I expected that attitude
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
|
Post #270,407
10/15/06 9:53:39 PM
|
Learned it from you, BeeP....
jb4
"When the final history is written in Iraq, [link|http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmate/2006/tmate060926.gif|it'll look just like a comma.]"
— George W. Bush, 24 Sep 06
|
Post #270,414
10/15/06 10:12:09 PM
|
touched
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
|
Post #270,434
10/16/06 7:28:19 AM
|
I wasn't aware that the Dems had a lot of vocal support.
The large majority here just really hate the Reps...
What would be even nicer than platform speeches would be if voters could force each politician to lay out, on paper, a detailed explanation of his plans, with funding requirements and means, and with risk/benefit assessments. Kind of like what we have to do at the beginning of a project here in the real world. Then do quarterly performance reviews (like what happens to us in a real world project) and have the capability to fire the useless wretches when they don't perform like they said they would.
Unfortunately, until there is some means of voter oversight, we will have to put up with the usual grabassing. <sigh> They are all such a waste of skin...
|
Post #270,464
10/16/06 2:33:08 PM
|
Re: I wasn't aware that the Dems had a lot of vocal support.
The large majority here just really hate the Reps...
I wouldn't say "hate" - I'd say that most here intensely dislike the policies that the Republicans are pushing instead. In the case of individual Republican Congressmen, many IWETHEYers hate the bald-faced lying, obfuscations, distortions, double-talk, etc. from many of them because they're the party in power right now. When the Democrats become the party in power, I have no doubt that this community will nail them to the wall when they do the same thing. lincoln
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the United States.
[link|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net|contact me]
|
Post #270,472
10/16/06 4:54:44 PM
|
Re: I wouldn't say "hate"
While it might not be hatred, it is probably against the law for most of our regulars to be in the same room with a Repo pol when said regular has access to
- firearms
- knives or sharp kitchen implements
- gasoline, kerosene, lighter fluid, or pretty much any energetic chemicals that can be found in a kitchen, lab, armory, or kindergarten
- chain saws, axes, and pretty much any thing that could cut angle food cake
- just a really irritating day and nobody to take it out on.
If not, it probably should be... A really dirty Demo pol, they would probably just set fire to, and neglect to piss on it. They probably wouldn't stay to finish the job. There's a slight amount of predjudice here...
|
Post #270,442
10/16/06 9:33:16 AM
|
I'm confused.
Why are you so certain this was leaked by a Democrat? And as a political hit piece? If I remember, that's what box said about the Foley stuff till it came out it was a republican who leaked it.
I think it more likely that scandal after scandal just means that some will fall during election season. Along with a press corps finally growing a spine and actually reporting on the revealed corruption.
-----------------------------------------
Worst President ever.
|
Post #270,443
10/16/06 9:54:40 AM
|
My take: Corruption in the news -> more corruption stories.
IOW, it's another example of the newsgathering herd mentality. From the CNN story (Beep's link): The inquiry focuses on lobbying contracts worth $1 million that Weldon's daughter, Karen Weldon, obtained from foreign clients and whether the congressman helped steer them, they said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the confidentiality of the criminal investigation.
Weldon, a 10-term Republican from the Philadelphia suburbs, long has denied any wrongdoing, and his top aide said Saturday no one had notified him of an investigation. Emphasis added. Thus, it seems that it's not a new story - it's only new that the FBI is looking into it. For instance, [link|http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1316/is_4_36/ai_n6006936|here's a story from 2004 about some of her lobbying efforts], and another from [link|http://www.harpers.org/sb-curt-weldon-kim-employment.html|April 2006]. Whether anything new will, or should, happen as a result of the FBI inquiry, I have no idea. It may be a big deal, or it might not. On the surface, it looks like influence pedling and coupled with the Abramoff scandals, it looks bad. FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
|
Post #270,447
10/16/06 10:31:24 AM
|
Actually, try this quote
Over the past few days, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has mailed fliers to voters in Weldon's district accusing Karen Weldon of getting help from her father on lobbying projects. Of course, there are those that think 2 plus 2 actually equals 5. I can't help that. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
|
Post #270,450
10/16/06 10:47:06 AM
|
It's in the news.
Politicians use information in the news in their fliers. There doesn't have to be a nefarious plot by the Democrats to cause information to be in the news. I doubt that the DCCC has a mole in the FBI who's been waiting to spring this on an unsuspecting Weldon.
One can get more information about the race, from a biased perspective that gives cites, at [link|http://www.pa7watch.com/|http://www.pa7watch.com/] if one is interested.
Cheers,
Scott.
|
Post #270,463
10/16/06 2:30:31 PM
|
Another example.
[link|http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2006/10/30/8391681/index.htm?source=yahoo_quote|CNN Money]: If the recent plunge in gas prices is the result of a conspiracy by President George W. Bush to help the Republicans retain control of Congress, as 42 percent of Americans believe, according to one Gallup poll, a lot of Wall Streeters wish they'd been in on the plot. According to the article it's the hedge fund speculation that collapsed when the hurricane season didn't show up as predicted. The market corrected! :) But, the talk of Bush manipulating gas prices to effect the elections took hold. Alex
When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
|
Post #270,467
10/16/06 3:42:20 PM
|
Pshaw - obv. it's manipulated by al-Q, fellow arabs
- this regime being the most effective jihad recruitment tool imaginable.
Though by the evidence, they surely did have an inkling of how it would go with these PNAC loonies -- which is a fuck of a lot more than the Murican Consumer ever had; inkling? they didn't even have a penciling.. Twice!
What's.. Let's Keep Those Repos in Power!
in arabic?
|
Post #270,462
10/16/06 2:28:02 PM
|
This made me chuckle.
[link|http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/16/D8KPSHJ82.html|Breitbart], via Drudge: [...]
The congressman also raised questions about the need for a Justice Department investigation, noting that the House Ethics Committee looked into his daughter's contracts soon after The Los Angeles Times reported on them in February 2004. He said he has cooperated fully, turning over 150 pages in documents and answering the committee's questions.
Weldon, regarded by some as a foreign policy expert, has clashed at times with the Bush administration. In the last year, he has repeatedly said a secret military unit called "Able Danger" used data- mining to link four Sept. 11 hijackers to al-Qaida more than a year before the attacks. A Pentagon report rejected the idea. Emphasis added. Why am I reminded of [link|http://www.freeinfosociety.com/site.php?postnum=543|this]? LELAND You just don't know Charlie. He thought that by finishing that notice he could show me he was an honest man. He was always trying to prove something. The whole thing about Susie being an opera singer, that was trying to prove something. You know what the headline was the day before the election, "Candidate Kane found in love nest with quote, singer, unquote." He was gonna take the quotes off the singer. Hey, nurse! Five years ago he wrote from that place down in the south, what's it called, Shangri-La? El Dorado? Sloppy Joe's? What was the name of that place? Hum, all right. Xanadu. I knew it all the time. You caught on, didn't you? I just say I'm not as hard to see through as I think. Well, I never even answered his letter. Maybe I should have. I guess he was pretty lonely down there in that coliseum all those years. He hadn't finished it when she left him. He never finished it, he never finished anything except my notice. Of course, he built the joint for her. :-) Cheers, Scott.
|
