Post #270,353
10/14/06 11:22:30 PM
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please critique the following
Voir Dire, selecting a jury, statement prior to selection
Jury selection
Good morning ladies and gentlemen. My name is Daemon and I am glad to be here. I am glad because the United States of America is unique in allowing a person accused of a crime to ask that fellow citizens judge his guilt or innocence rather than some appointed official of the state.
I will be representing myself in this matter.
At this point in time we will select a jury. This is a little like being kids we would choose up sides for a game, except the stakes here are much higher than when we were kids playing ball. What is at stake to me is losing something I treasure more than life, my personal liberty and freedom.
Mr Prosecutor has a much more difficult doom laid upon him. He is the defender of the collected liberty and freedom of All county citizens including myself.
Together we will pick a jury of six to hear this trial. At this point of the trial Mr Prosecutor and I will ask questions to which there are no right or wrong answers and pick those folks we feel best suit our different interests.
may you go in beauty
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Post #270,354
10/14/06 11:39:57 PM
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Even lawyers hire other lawyers to represent them in court.
It has been said: "if you represent yourself, you have a fool for a client and a jackass for an attorney."
But, what do I know? INAL!
Alex
When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
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Post #270,355
10/15/06 12:00:01 AM
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not possible
if certain insurance FUCKING companies ever paid their claims I would have one. Making the nut has been dificult lately, finding a lawyer who would take payments is immpossible locally so....
I am that fool
gomez adams
may you go in beauty
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Post #270,356
10/15/06 12:12:20 AM
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Very eloquent
I'll be rooting for you. Go get da bastids! I am that fool
gomez adams *sniff* I miss Raul Julia :( Smile,
Amy
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Post #270,358
10/15/06 12:43:35 AM
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For a DUI?
Or something else?
You kill someone?
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Post #270,366
10/15/06 10:09:33 AM
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yes last year in june
may you go in beauty
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Post #270,361
10/15/06 8:34:06 AM
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Visit a law student and FindLaw.
You really don't want to be there by yourself even if you can't hire a lawyer. You need someone who understands the law better than you. Law schools usually have student volunteers who can help, even if they can't represent you in court.
At a minimum, search through [link|http://www.findlaw.com/casecode/|Findlaw] and read things like [link|http://library.findlaw.com/1993/Mar/1/126250.html|this].
On your writeup, personally I would tone it down a bit. You don't want to give the jury any reason to think that you're anything other than a perfectly ordinary person just like them. Comments like, "What is at stake to me is losing something I treasure more than life, my personal liberty and freedom." while likely true, don't help that, IMO.
During the trial, try not to make any statement that can be twisted to make it look like you're lying. Juries have to weigh the evidence and make judgements based on imperfect information. Impressions are very important. If a reasonable person can't see a statement as truthful, it'll be difficult for you. Similarly, parse the prosecutor's statements carefully, too.
My $0.02. Best of luck.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #270,364
10/15/06 9:57:08 AM
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Most universities have a pro-bono requirement
Find yourself someone to help.
Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry.Adrian Belew
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Post #270,368
10/15/06 10:15:11 AM
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spent 40 hours in state u law school library
woulndt have a case except for state vs davis but the paper printouts were destroyed, waiting on a log book. have researched the NHTSA manual on the subject. Can currently rebuild a intoxalyzer 5000 68xx model. A lawyer would be good but I have searched and searched, 3k is needed minimum 6k for trial. No one wants to go to trial here. Friggin judge from another county said dont go to trial here, plead. I will not plead guilty when I am not.
may you go in beauty
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Post #270,474
10/16/06 8:06:19 PM
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results
went to do jury selection, prosecutor sez he cant comply with my subpoena because the logs are lost. He sez PD mislaid them. Since its highly freakin doubtfull that the usage handwritten entry log that sits beside the breathalyzer ever gets lost, I am pissed.
Pick Jury, not a bad selection, one female geek, regular female 4 guys of various ages.
Jury takes a break.
Prosecutor approaches me and the missing magical log is back again. It shows 2 attempts at usage not the 3 I need to get it tossed. Examine closly, yup the cop didnt log the time I burped. No documentation no case.
Didnt want to waste the jusdge/juries time. Approached the bench and changed plea.
Luckily this was a borrowed judge from counties far enough south they dont give a rats ass. He gives me the minimums, still a HUGE pain in the ass.
Fuck,
may you go in beauty
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Post #270,499
10/16/06 10:36:12 PM
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I'll take being lucky over being smart most any day!
May you go in beauty! :)
Alex
When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
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Post #270,523
10/17/06 8:23:44 AM
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Crap.
Log missing? Or changed/rewritten, and unavailable because the 'new' log wasn't ready in time? I don't trust cops; I've seen too many sleazy things. Remember that had the cop screwed up a procedure, he would have gotten in trouble; it would have affected his review.
Not that you could have done anything about it.
So, minimums? You get the 'drive to work only' exemption?
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #270,532
10/17/06 9:37:53 AM
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yup, restricted licence for instate
several spares from elsewhere for out of state
thanx,
bill
may you go in beauty
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Post #270,534
10/17/06 9:57:05 AM
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As long as the ruling doesn't
require you to break the law to survive, it went better than I expected.
Just thank your lucky stars you don't live in New Jersey! (of course, that works on many, many levels)
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #270,724
10/18/06 6:57:19 PM
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ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #270723 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=270723|ICLRPD]
jb4
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— George W. Bush, 24 Sep 06
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Post #284,154
5/7/07 3:42:44 PM
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Or large parts of Indiana.
In rural Indiana (read anywhere but Gary, Ft. Wayne and Indianapolis) a first offense is usually 10 days in jail + fines + 1 year probation + a bunch of other crap. But the really special thing about rural Indiana is this (and no, I am NOT making this up). You know you're gonna go out and get slammed, so you get a designated driver. A cop pulls over your driver for a real/imagined traffic violation. He smells alcohol on you and instructs you to get out of the car. Now, you're screwed. Because if you don't get out of the car you go to jail for failing to obey a law enforcement officer. If you do get out of the car, you go to jail for "public intoxication". Either way, as one cop put it to me, "In Indiana, if you drink outside your home, we own you." See, the DUI law kicks in at 0.08, but public intox kicks in at 0.04. So, in Indiana, you can be too drunk to legally walk down the sidewalk, but not too drunk to legally drive. This makes the effective limit in Indiana 0.4 (because if you blow 0.5 in your car, the cop is going to ask you to step out of the car and then bust you for public intox). Some counties report up to 60% of their alcohol related arrests are PI and most of those are as described above. Great place, Indiana. Again.
bcnu,
Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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