hey, post the other stuff. I can read most euro/latin

Text of the speech itself:
[link|http://www.minocw.nl/toespraak/73|http://www.minocw.nl/toespraak/73]
In it she calls for a debate at the scholarly level, but given her political roots and position in the government this was generally interpreted as a prelude to introducing ID in the classroom. A follow-up damage control statement to the press didn't make it much better by failing to dispel this ("changes to the school program are not yet in order")

Dutch mainstream newspaper "De Volkskrant" (critical):
[link|http://www.volkskrant.nl/den_haag/article198440.ece/Minister_wil_debat_over_evolutie_en_schepping|http://www.volkskran...utie_en_schepping]

From the Technical University Delft (critical):
[link|http://www.delta.tudelft.nl/archief/j37/n14/19695|http://www.delta.tud...ief/j37/n14/19695]

And from Katholiek Nieuwsblad (supportive):
[link|http://www.katholieknieuwsblad.nl/actueel22/kn2236b.htm|http://www.katholiek...eel22/kn2236b.htm]
(The Church hierarchy didn't want to touch the subject with a ten foot pole and steered itself well clear of the controversy.)

Most of what I could find follows the same general trend. There isn't much more to it because she didn't get any backup from her own party following the criticism so the thing died quickly.

And then we have "homegrown" comments from [link|http://www.demorgen.be/telex/?news=B348022|Miroslaw Orzechowski], Polands new vice minister of edukayshun, last Saturday... He's one of those pining for the good old days from before the Communists.

(The theory of evolution is "a cowardly opinion of an old, non-believing man" possibly arrived at because "he was a vegetarian and missed an inner spirit".)

Post #270,310 by boxley 10/14/06 11:20:09 AM Reply	hey, post the other stuff. I can read most euro/latin based languages. thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #270,363 by scoenye 10/15/06 8:38:19 AM Reply	Here are some Text of the speech itself: [link\|http://www.minocw.nl/toespraak/73\|http://www.minocw.nl/toespraak/73] In it she calls for a debate at the scholarly level, but given her political roots and position in the government this was generally interpreted as a prelude to introducing ID in the classroom. A follow-up damage control statement to the press didn't make it much better by failing to dispel this ("changes to the school program are not yet in order") Dutch mainstream newspaper "De Volkskrant" (critical): [link\|http://www.volkskrant.nl/den_haag/article198440.ece/Minister_wil_debat_over_evolutie_en_schepping\|http://www.volkskran...utie_en_schepping] From the Technical University Delft (critical): [link\|http://www.delta.tudelft.nl/archief/j37/n14/19695\|http://www.delta.tud...ief/j37/n14/19695] And from Katholiek Nieuwsblad (supportive): [link\|http://www.katholieknieuwsblad.nl/actueel22/kn2236b.htm\|http://www.katholiek...eel22/kn2236b.htm] (The Church hierarchy didn't want to touch the subject with a ten foot pole and steered itself well clear of the controversy.) Most of what I could find follows the same general trend. There isn't much more to it because she didn't get any backup from her own party following the criticism so the thing died quickly. And then we have "homegrown" comments from [link\|http://www.demorgen.be/telex/?news=B348022\|Miroslaw Orzechowski], Polands new vice minister of edukayshun, last Saturday... He's one of those pining for the good old days from before the Communists. (The theory of evolution is "a cowardly opinion of an old, non-believing man" possibly arrived at because "he was a vegetarian and missed an inner spirit".)
Post #270,365 by boxley 10/15/06 9:59:33 AM Reply	evolution is a theory, well founded in research fruit fly research is extremely well documented. The creationists idealogues cannot understand that. Some evolutionists cannot understand that religion is compatible with evolution. It does belong in a philosophy class at the college level not taught as troot at the highschool biology class. thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep

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