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Post #27,016 by Brandioch 2/2/02 6:08:47 PM Reply	lingwage ez eeeeeezeeeeee. [link\|http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=abortion\|http://www.dictiona...erm=abortion] 1. a. Termination of pregnancy and expulsion of an embryo or of a fetus that is incapable of survival. 1. b. Any of various procedures that result in such termination and expulsion. Also called induced abortion. 2.The premature expulsion of a nonviable fetus from the uterus; a miscarriage. You see, once I have left the womb, I cannot be "aborted". I hope this clears up the issue for you.
Post #27,078 by tonytib 2/3/02 12:58:24 PM Reply	Yeah, it's so easy.....you can't even get it right! abort: 2 a : to terminate prematurely : CANCEL [abort a project] [abort a spaceflight] b : to stop in the early stages [abort a disease] (thanks to m-w.com) You wanna bet you can't be terminated prematurely? Tony
Post #27,092 by Brandioch 2/3/02 4:14:50 PM Reply	Sure, just re-classify me. "2 a : to terminate prematurely : CANCEL [abort a project] [abort a spaceflight] b : to stop in the early stages [abort a disease]" Simple, just re-classify me as a "space flight" or "project" or somesuch. Or, re-classify me as a disease. Oh, I see now. From you original post: "OK, so why can't we abort you?" Well, you CAN. But it is ILLEGAL. "After all, you've developed continuously from the egg and sperm." True. "So where's the fundamental difference?" That I am now outside the womb and viable on my own. You see, in THIS culture, different rights are granted at different stages of development. Example, a 5 year old cannot be legally killed without the court's permission, but that same 5 year old cannot legally operate a motor vehicle on the highway. So, while you CAN "abort" me, that is termed "murder" by the court system. Whereas terminating a pregnancy is called "abortion" and not "murder". Now, do you understand? Do you realize that I am no longer in a womb?
Post #27,114 by tonytib 2/3/02 9:06:09 PM Reply	But you're NOT viable on your own
Post #27,131 by CRConrad 2/4/02 1:53:43 AM Reply	WTF are you gibbering about, Tone???
Post #27,133 by Ashton 2/4/02 1:59:06 AM Reply	LRPD: "Smoke the pipe, and there will be no lies between us"
Post #27,183 by Brandioch 2/4/02 11:09:28 AM Reply	Is this going to be another "definition"? Some out-of-context usage of "viable"? Whatever.
Post #27,082 by boxley 2/3/02 1:34:34 PM Reply	If I abort you you are inherently incapable of surviving outside the womb hence the term near term abortion late term abortion and post birth abortion. my 2cents, thanx, bill who always wonders that pre birth abortion rights/antis have equal and opposite reaction to the post birth abortion issue. My Dreams aren't as empty as my conscience seems to be
Post #27,095 by Brandioch 2/3/02 4:37:43 PM Reply	Anyone want to answer this? Why does this topic ALWAYS get bogged down in semantics? Is there something in the psychological makeup of certain people who don't understand the differerence between In-the-womb and not-In-the-womb? Or is it that certain people would rather focus on the fact that the English language has, over time, adapted multiple meanings to words? To prevent further right shift on this subject, I'll clarify for those individuals possessed of very little brain. Yes, you can 'abort' just about anyone or anything. Yes, you can 'kill' a 'fetus'. Yes, a 'fetus' is a 'child'. Fuck semantics. We're discussing the legality of certain procedures performed while the fetus is still inside the womb. If you cannot manage to get that through your head, you're an idiot. If you want to argue what 'abort' means all day, fine. Then you are an idiot who cannot understand what "context" is and it is pointless trying to enlighten you on this subject.
Post #27,180 by boxley 2/4/02 10:58:28 AM Reply	you are discussing the legality some of the others were discussing morality me dux, bill My Dreams aren't as empty as my conscience seems to be
Post #27,182 by Brandioch 2/4/02 11:07:53 AM Reply	Either way. Morality or legality. There is still a world of difference between a procedure to abort a fetus and "aborting" an adult. Which was my point.
Post #27,188 by boxley 2/4/02 11:26:29 AM Reply	eh, scraping with knives works both ways? abortion, (I am describing what was described to me by a non participant viewer.) take what looks to be an awl (flat striking end on one side point on other.) insert and smack, then scrape with various scrapers. Would work on adults, icepick harry comes to mind and Jeff Dalmer was good about breaking up the parts. thanx, bill My Dreams aren't as empty as my conscience seems to be
Post #27,235 by Brandioch 2/4/02 3:21:14 PM Reply	sigh Yes, if you remove enough of the details, your view is correct. Oh, I notice that a woman is present in the pre-birth version whereas performing the same procedure on a woman would have no effect post-birth.
Post #27,369 by boxley 2/5/02 10:50:30 AM Reply	point==taken My Dreams aren't as empty as my conscience seems to be

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