Sen. Allen claims he never used the N word.

Post #268,717 by Another Scott 9/26/06 10:18:47 AM Reply	Sen. Allen claims he never used the N word. [link\|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/25/AR2006092500558_pf.html\|Washington Post]: Tuesday, September 26, 2006; Page B01 RICHMOND, Sept. 25 -- Virginia Sen. George Allen on Monday denied allegations by a college football teammate and another former acquaintance that the senator used a racial epithet to refer to blacks during and after his time at the University of Virginia in the early 1970s. The accusations by R. Kendall Shelton, 53, a radiologist in North Carolina, and Christopher C. Taylor, 59, an anthropologist at the University of Alabama, reignited questions about Allen and race as he campaigns for reelection against Democrat James Webb. Shelton said Allen frequently used the "N-word" to describe blacks and nicknamed him "Wizard" because of the similarity of his name to that of Robert Shelton, a former imperial wizard of the Alabama Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. He also recounted an event from 1973 or 1974 in which he, Allen and a third friend were hunting deer. After the deer was killed, Shelton said, Allen cut off the doe's head, asked for directions to the home of the nearest black person and shoved the head into that person's mailbox. Taylor said that during a visit to Allen's Charlottesville house in 1982, Allen pointed to turtles in a pond on his property and said only "the [epithets] eat them." [...] There are some corroborated details, but whether he really said these things can't be proved, of course. Normally, I would say that what he did in 1982 or earlier shouldn't matter much. And maybe it doesn't in this case. But it seems to me to indicate a continuing pattern of intolerance and bullying on his part. We'll see. Cheers, Scott. (Who wishes the press would spend as much time covering his votes and his positions as it does on his character.)
Post #268,723 by tuberculosis 9/26/06 11:29:57 AM Reply	And his old football team mates have refuted him [link\|http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/09/24/allen_football/\|http://www.salon.com...4/allen_football/] Allen said he came to Virginia because he wanted to play football in a place where 'blacks knew their place,'" said Dr. Ken Shelton, a white radiologist in North Carolina who played tight end for the University of Virginia football team when Allen was quarterback. "He used the N-word on a regular basis back then." A second white teammate, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he feared retribution from the Allen campaign, separately claimed that Allen used the word "nigger" to describe blacks. "It was so common with George when he was among his white friends. This is the terminology he used," the teammate said. A third white teammate contacted separately, who also spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear of being attacked by the Virginia senator, said he too remembers Allen using the word "nigger," though he said he could not recall a specific conversation in which Allen used the term. "My impression of him was that he was a racist," the third teammate said. Shelton also told Salon that the future senator gave him the nickname "Wizard," because he shared a last name with Robert Shelton, who served in the 1960s as the imperial wizard of the United Klans of America, a group affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan. --------- and --------- [link\|http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/09/26/allen_football/\|http://www.salon.com...6/allen_football/] The Washington Post quoted Allen calling the claims in the Salon article of one former teammate, Ken Shelton, "absolutely false," "pure fabrication" and "nonsense." According to the Post, Allen said the "N-word" was not a part of his vocabulary. "It wasn't then. It hasn't been since. And it is not now," the senator said. But within hours, two more former acquaintances of Allen's had come forward... ---------- Somebody is lying. Guess who, Macaca. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #268,731 by Another Scott 9/26/06 2:18:19 PM Reply	More... [link\|http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2006/09/who_are_george_allens_critics.html\|Marc Fischer's Blog] at the Washington Post: Where are these people coming from who now say that they have known for years about Allen's racist attitudes, racist speech, racist actions? Who are these people who suddenly knew for decades about the Allen family's secret--a secret so essential to Allen's mother that she didn't tell it to her son until well into his late middle age? Since last week, I have talked to half a dozen people who knew Allen's mother decades ago and somehow figured, or thought they knew, that she was Jewish. In that context, how does the senator's protestation of ignorance stand up? Hmm... Cheers, Scott.
Post #268,735 by boxley 9/26/06 3:36:30 PM Reply	sheer stupidity, he should have said I didnt use it back then anymore than Bill Clinton or Al Sharpton during that time period. end of story, thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #268,747 by Ashton 9/26/06 7:26:04 PM Reply	But that would have been more faked sincerity (too) ;^>
Post #268,750 by tuberculosis 9/26/06 7:38:43 PM Reply	And then there's the deer head incident [link\|http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/26/macaca-allen-and-the-deer-head/\|http://www.crooksand...nd-the-deer-head/] [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #268,756 by bepatient 9/26/06 9:05:10 PM Reply	1973? Wow. Thats back in the days when senators were bridge jumping. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #268,767 by tuberculosis 9/26/06 11:12:20 PM Reply	Ya know, its not that he did it Its that he persists in denying it that's gonna sink him. And the noose. And the confederate flag. And Macaca. And his general lack of skills. But mostly, its that people think he's lying now, and if he's lying now, he'll probably lie all the time. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #268,768 by bepatient 9/26/06 11:46:50 PM Reply	Catching someone in a lie doesn't seem to matter or maybe thats only for higher office than Congress...who knows. Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #268,770 by broomberg 9/27/06 6:49:06 AM Reply	Sure it does Just that some people are capable of judging the importance of the lie. Some people aren't capable. Blowjobs != thousands of deaths and hundreds of billions of dollars.
Post #268,773 by boxley 9/27/06 9:18:45 AM Reply	a good one is Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #268,802 by SpiceWare 9/27/06 3:58:20 PM Reply	LOL Darrell Spice, Jr. Trendy yet complex\nPeople seek me out - though they're not sure why\n[link\|http://spiceware.org/gallery/ArtisticOverpass\|Artistic Overpass] [link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare]
Post #268,797 by bepatient 9/27/06 2:55:30 PM Reply	I think you underestimate the cynical voters Too much of today's music is fashionable crap dressed as artistry._{Adrian Belew}
Post #268,758 by Another Scott 9/26/06 9:43:03 PM Reply	Larry Sabato says he knows Allen did. [link\|http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Virginia-Senate.html?_r=1&oref=slogin\|NY Times]: RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- A noted political scientist joined one of Sen. George Allen's former college football teammates in claiming the senator used a racial slur to refer to blacks in the early 1970s, a claim Allen dismisses as ''ludicrously false.'' Larry J. Sabato, one of Virginia's most-quoted political science professors and a classmate of Allen's in the early 1970s, said in a televised interview Monday that Allen used the epithet. [...] Sabato, director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics, would not tell The Associated Press how he knew Allen used the n-word. He told Chris Matthews on MSNBC that he did not know whether it was true that Allen used the word frequently while in college. ''I'm simply going to stay with what I know is the case and the fact is he did use the n-word, whether he's denying it or not,'' Sabato said. [...] ''The story and his comments and assertions in there are completely false,'' Allen said during an interview with AP reporters and editors. ''I don't remember ever using that word and it is absolutely false that that was ever part of my vocabulary.'' [...] George needs to look up [link\|http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vocabulary\|vocabulary] some time. Sabato has a lot of credibility. His information may be second hand, but he must have confidence in it to stick his neck out like that. The [link\|http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003157481\|Editor & Publisher] has a article about how the story is changing and how it's being covered. Cheers, Scott.

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