You are correct

Post #26,384 by nking 1/29/02 3:22:37 PM Reply	You are correct however he has to tell this to PHBs, Empty Suits, and IT MS-Robots. They may never see the high costs, and appoint one of their own to be the "Citrix Czar" or "Terminal Server Shaw" and actually create a job to keep up with the updates and upgrading? Rewriting the code in Java would be the lower cost solution as far as maintenance costs go. Write once, run many. Just make sure that the clients keep up with the Java updates. "Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
Post #26,497 by wharris2 1/30/02 9:26:55 AM Reply	Cynical view "It costs more, therefore it must be better." "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #26,501 by ben_tilly 1/30/02 9:54:15 AM Reply	If you want to keep that view... then I will have to charge you for it, thereby allowing you to prove to yourself that your view is superior. Cheers, Ben
Post #26,535 by cforde 1/30/02 12:16:12 PM Reply	yes, well I'll charge him even more on an annual subscription with a lock-in clause that forbids him to even learn about other opinions. Have fun, Carl Forde
Post #26,554 by ben_tilly 1/30/02 2:20:49 PM Reply	At this rate... We will make him unable to afford his current opinion. At which point we will offer to pay him money for writing letters saying how great we are, so that is OK. Cheers, Ben
Post #26,558 by drewk 1/30/02 2:42:10 PM Reply	Good for him I'll charge less Because my service is easier to use. And I promise not to charge more once you go out of business. Really. We have to fight the terrorists as if there were no rules and preserve our open society as if there were no terrorists. -- [link\|http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/05/opinion/BIO-FRIEDMAN.html\|Thomas Friedman]
Post #26,607 by ben_tilly 1/30/02 9:11:45 PM Reply	Too bad for you... The customers already believe that you get what you pay for, and they are paying cforde and me for maintaining their current world view. Which we will do for as long as they can afford it. Good luck finding any customers... Cheers, Ben
Post #26,581 by nking 1/30/02 4:22:03 PM Reply	That is why Open Source doesn't catch on with the suits they think that if it was any good, it wouldn't be almost free, or open source code. Also Windows costs more to maintain, so they think it must be better. The same people think that if they just throw more money at a problem, that it will go away. "Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
Post #26,605 by n3jja 1/30/02 8:39:10 PM Reply	Heh The same people think that if they just throw more money at a problem, that it will go away. Well, they're right..... sort of. The money will certainly go away. As to the problem....... ;-)
Post #26,747 by nking 1/31/02 6:34:19 PM Reply	Problem solving The best way to solve a problem is to find the root cause of the problem and get rid of the root. If not, the problem will keep returning and causing more problems. if the root of the problem is MS-Code that causes memory leaks, system crashes, and a ton of support time and over costs, then the solution is to get rid of the MS-Code and use something else. Like replace Windows 2000 Server, IIS 5.0, SQL Server, and ASP with Linux, Apache, MySQL (or Oracle for Linux), and PHP/JSP. "Will code Visual BASIC for cash."

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