since you asked
my original point was that if MS clones Zen Vision-M for its Zune
it will have a product that could give Apple a challenge
especially among the 90-94% of users who have Windows
with PlaysForSure they don't need software or drivers
actually when my assistant was getting ready to buy his player
I told him to get an iPod (I have an older Creative and my son has an iPod)
but when I saw the Zen Vison-M in action, I could see why he got it
I'd be really surprised if anyone here thinks MS is going to "re-invent" the mp3 player
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