Post #261,487
7/13/06 9:00:25 AM
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But what does it actually look like?
I'm not arguing in support of his position. I'm asking, because I really don't know. Is Houston, despite not having zoning, actually divided into residential, industrial and retail areas just like places that actually do have zoning? If the politicos are trying to get zoning passed, that means they're trying to control things. If they're trying, they can do it without zoning, it just takes more work.
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Post #261,501
7/13/06 10:19:19 AM
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Zoning is no guarantee, of course.
E.g. go to 38deg, 53min 36.23sec N; 77deg, 04min 28.74sec W with Google Earth and enable the 3D view of buildings. Adjust the tilt so the "Eye Altitude" is about 750 feet. People living in those 2-3 story apartment buildings probably wonder what zoning in Arlington is.
IIRC, there's some spot on Wilson Boulevard that had a very nice, large, ~ 1850s home right next to a 30 story office building. I wasn't able to find it though.
Arlington does have [link|http://www.arlingtonva.us/Departments/CPHD/planning/zoning/CPHDPlanningZoningOrdinance.aspx|zoning], but the land is so valuable and the economy has been so strong there for so long that residential areas near the business districts are under a lot of stress.
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #261,506
7/13/06 10:43:17 AM
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Yep
though there is some overlap. Some of my favorite restaurants are in old homes. [link|http://www.libertyhaven.com/personalfreedomissues/freespeechorcivilliberties/houstonzoning.html|Houston Says No to Zoning] Within Houston are two small, independent cities, Bellaire and West University, with zoning. Between 1970 and 1980 home prices in Bellaire and West University climbed more slowly than in many Houston communities, including those lacking private neighborhood restrictions against businesses and apartments.4 In fact, between 1990 and 1993, average annual home sale prices actually fell in the two zoned cities while sprinting up in a number of Houston neighborhoods, restricted and unrestricted.5 The financial risks to homes unshielded by zoning are, at best, greatly overstated. ... In Houston land uses tend to segregate themselves as investors respond to market incentives. Under the Houston system, heavy industry voluntarily locates on large tracts near rail lines or highways; apartments and stores seek thoroughfares; gas stations vie for busy intersections.9
With the market at work there's no need for government-imposed districting. Businesses that open inside quiet residential neighborhoods will compete poorly with establishments that enjoy the visibility and traffic count of a heavily traveled street. Businesses that thrive amidst homes often serve strong local demand. ... That's the Houston advantage: private property rights. True, Houston has many strict ordinances, but without zoning, citizens in Houston maintain over their property much of the control that other cities give to local government. Zoning dramatically increases the opportunity for public officials to manipulate private property for maximum political benefit and "impose costs on others at no cost to themselves,"15 writes economist Thomas Sowell. Under zoning, local goods and services reflect regulatory costs Houstonians avoid.
One such good is housing. Without zoning, Houston ranks consistently as the leader among major American cities for housing affordability. "It's more affordable here than any other large city in the nation," said University of Houston economist Barton Smith.16 According to Smith, one reason for this affordability is Houston's lack of zoning.17 And a federal report in 1991 cited zoning as a leading cause for the shortage of affordable housing in America.18 How does zoning push up the cost of housing?
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Post #261,518
7/13/06 11:12:14 AM
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How's that work?
Between 1970 and 1980 home prices in Bellaire and West University climbed more slowly than in many Houston communities, including those lacking private neighborhood restrictions against businesses and apartments.4 In fact, between 1990 and 1993, average annual home sale prices actually fell in the two zoned cities while sprinting up in a number of Houston neighborhoods, restricted and unrestricted.5 The financial risks to homes unshielded by zoning are, at best, greatly overstated. So rising home prices are good, and zoning prevents that. Without zoning, Houston ranks consistently as the leader among major American cities for housing affordability. "It's more affordable here than any other large city in the nation," said University of Houston economist Barton Smith.16 According to Smith, one reason for this affordability is Houston's lack of zoning.17 And a federal report in 1991 cited zoning as a leading cause for the shortage of affordable housing in America.18 How does zoning push up the cost of housing? So low home prices are good, and zoning prevents that. Huh?
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Post #261,521
7/13/06 11:25:19 AM
7/13/06 11:26:36 AM
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it does seem odd
Basically people have voted with their wallet and said the unzoned areas are worth more to them.
At the same time, because the majority of the area is unzoned, the prices for the metro area as a whole has risen less than zoned cities where shortages of a specific type(residential, commercial, industrial) are created by the political division of land use.
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Edited by SpiceWare
July 13, 2006, 11:26:36 AM EDT
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Post #261,567
7/13/06 1:21:26 PM
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Very simple
Thanks to a lack of zoning, construction proceeds at about cost. Existing houses go up in price, new homes are cheap, everyone is happy.
To see an extreme of the opposite situation, consider Boston. Boston has many big houses whose owners could make a lot of money if they tore the house down, built several on the lot, and sold them separately. However this won't happen due to zoning restrictions. The result is that there are fewer homes available, and lots of houses are worth less than they otherwise would be.
Cheers, Ben
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