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New Columbia was the one with problems with falling foam
Which was what was showing up here as well.

Cheers,
Ben
a very rich person should leave his kids enough to do anything but not enough to do nothing. -- Warren Buffett
New Er, no kidding.
Both going up and coming down are risky.

Columbia exploded coming down. Bad foam.

Challenger exploded going up. Foam isn't the only thing we have to worry about.

Yesterday, the shuttle made it up at least -- half the battle. Yay, can we be happy about that, and worry about the foam when it comes back down? Thanks.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New And....falling foam
seems to kill on the way down. They're supposed to check out the shuttle when it docks with the space station. Worse case scenerio, they'll land the shuttle on remote control and get the astronauts down some other way.
New Why do people keep telling me this?
Yes, foam is bad and dangerous, and makes them blow up on the way down. I know this.

They can also blow up on the way up, which the one yesterday did NOT do, for which I'm glad. But Ben said the trick is getting down, to which I'm trying to point out, "No, the trick is not blowing up *either* way".
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New FALLING FOAM BAD!
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New *shun*
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Hey, watch your foam, you.


Peter
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New You can be shunned too, boy-o.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New For a simple reason
Both are risky, but the big safety concern for this flight in particular is worry about getting back, not getting up.

Cheers,
Ben
a very rich person should leave his kids enough to do anything but not enough to do nothing. -- Warren Buffett
New No, really?
I didn't know that! Honestly!

Amazing, the things you learn on the intarweb! It's almost as if a recent shuttle exploded because it got hit by falling foam! That would sure make people sit up and take notice!

Man, what a bummer that would be. We should of course concentrate on the foam and the return flight, then, because shuttles actually making it into space without exploding are a humdrum occurrence, almost not worth watching or commenting on.

And since I had NO idea about the dangers of reentry, given that I was so obviously fixated on the shuttle launch, I'm glad that you've taken the time to educate me about the particularly troublesome aspects of foam impacts during launch, since of course the trick is getting down, after all.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New If you're glad, then I'm glad.
a very rich person should leave his kids enough to do anything but not enough to do nothing. -- Warren Buffett
New Absolutely!
I would appreciate you posting more about it, just so that I am properly schooled on the full spectrum of foamish danger. I am obviously quite ignorant where foam and danger are concerned... probably too many peaceful hours spent playing with largely innocuous foam products in the halcyon days of my youth. I've had very rewarding interactions with foam in the form of contraceptives as well, so I'm sure that's coloring my attitude.

So in order that we can have a proper conversation about foam and its attendant dangers, please hold forth!

Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Can't talk about contraceptive foam w/o mentioning O rings!
Makes the up and down, in and out conversation much safer!
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Or O face
New Er, ya mean__ infoamation overload?

New Hey, I'm trying to foam my own opinion , here!
jb4
"So don't pay attention to the approval ratings that say 68% of Americans disapprove of the job this man is doing. I ask you this, does that not also logically mean that 68% approve of the job he's not doing? Think about it. I haven't."
Stephen Colbert, at the White House Correspondent's Dinner 29Apr06
New Someone's been foamenting mistrust here, methinks...
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
New I see stopping this will take a foam hand
===

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New Whoever does it will be world-foamous.


Peter
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New Foam many a day, I wot!
jb4
"So don't pay attention to the approval ratings that say 68% of Americans disapprove of the job this man is doing. I ask you this, does that not also logically mean that 68% approve of the job he's not doing? Think about it. I haven't."
Stephen Colbert, at the White House Correspondent's Dinner 29Apr06
New To be productised...
...and sold via infoamercials.


Peter
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New Even maybe make a foamumentary about it... (67K img)
Or even something else:
[image|http://www.gregfolkert.net/pics/funny/foamytubbies.jpg|1px|foamytubbies|350|435]

The Foamytubbies!

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Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars?
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New When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.
I'll call you up on the telefoam.


Peter
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[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Home]
Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
[link|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall|A better terminal emulator]
New Make sure its an infoamed opinion.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Apologies.....I was trying to agree with you.
and did a piss-poor job. :-)

I've always been on edge watching the Shuttles go up...particular at full throttle up. There's some very nice videos of normal rockets (Delta) blowing up spectacularly just as it started to clear the tower. (I know of older ones that did nice loops).

It's up...and safe. And if there were foam damage (I doubt it on this launch) they've got a plan for the astronauts (another good thing). This was a good launch.

(BTW: Foam Bad..... :-)
New Re: Apologies.....I was trying to agree with you.
I usually have tears in my eyes after they make it up.

There's a really good IMAX film of the space station with some teeth-shaking shots of the shuttle going up. Very powerful.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Thanks...but I lived in Merritt Island and Titusville.
IMAX is great...but it can't compare.
New Well, for us poor schlubs in Michigan, it's pretty cool. ;-)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New You know what would really suck?
They find some light damage on the tiles and decide it's too risky to try to bring it back in. They remote-control it down and rush the backup to the space station for a pickup. Then they find not-light damage on those tiles.

I really hope the guys running things have thought through that timeline better than the hairspray model who was reading it on TV.
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     YEEEEEEHAAAAWWWWW! - (admin) - (42)
         Twas a purty launch - (Yendor) - (1)
             Definitely a nice launch... - (Simon_Jester)
         The trick is the landing - (ben_tilly) - (30)
             Both up and down are risky. - (admin) - (29)
                 Columbia was the one with problems with falling foam - (ben_tilly) - (28)
                     Er, no kidding. - (admin) - (27)
                         And....falling foam - (Simon_Jester) - (26)
                             Why do people keep telling me this? - (admin) - (25)
                                 FALLING FOAM BAD! -NT - (Yendor) - (1)
                                     *shun* -NT - (admin)
                                 Hey, watch your foam, you. -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                     You can be shunned too, boy-o. -NT - (admin)
                                 For a simple reason - (ben_tilly) - (15)
                                     No, really? - (admin) - (14)
                                         If you're glad, then I'm glad. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                             Absolutely! - (admin) - (2)
                                                 Can't talk about contraceptive foam w/o mentioning O rings! - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                     Or O face -NT - (broomberg)
                                         Er, ya mean__ infoamation overload? -NT - (Ashton) - (9)
                                             Hey, I'm trying to foam my own opinion , here! -NT - (jb4) - (8)
                                                 Someone's been foamenting mistrust here, methinks... -NT - (Yendor) - (5)
                                                     I see stopping this will take a foam hand -NT - (drewk) - (4)
                                                         Whoever does it will be world-foamous. -NT - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                             Foam many a day, I wot! -NT - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                 To be productised... - (pwhysall)
                                                             Even maybe make a foamumentary about it... (67K img) - (folkert)
                                                 When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                     Make sure its an infoamed opinion. -NT - (bepatient)
                                 Apologies.....I was trying to agree with you. - (Simon_Jester) - (4)
                                     Re: Apologies.....I was trying to agree with you. - (admin) - (2)
                                         Thanks...but I lived in Merritt Island and Titusville. - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                             Well, for us poor schlubs in Michigan, it's pretty cool. ;-) -NT - (admin)
                                     You know what would really suck? - (drewk)
         And back safely! - (admin) - (8)
             The trick is the taxiing - (drewk) - (3)
                 Truth. - (admin) - (2)
                     Or them tripping on loose foam while disembarking. -NT - (bepatient) - (1)
                         Always a keenly regarded danger. -NT - (admin)
             Their foamilies will be relieved. -NT - (pwhysall) - (3)
                 Better than getting a foam letter from the chaplain -NT - (drewk) - (2)
                     Funerals are such a drag. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                         Ashes to ashes. Dust to dust. - (Another Scott)

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