So, how is the performance of *Z* doing?

Not quite "Better Than New" but very much nicer.

I'd forgotten that knight [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=184201|doesn't respond to pings or tracert], and that that's why the tracert was dying. I've found [link|http://lists.netisland.net/archives/tcptraceroute/tcptraceroute-2005/msg00007.html|mention of a tcptraceroute for win32], but I've been unable to find the binary thus far (I can't seem to find the thread on the [link|http://www.barkto.com/|barkto] [link|news://news.barkto.com/homeless.barktopus|newsgroup]):

I uploaded Win32 binaries and source at news://news.barkto.com
Group - homeless.barktopia.binaries
Thread - TCPTraceroute for Win32

So the main problem was all of the traffic clogging up the pipes and the network hardware that you talked about [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=259141|here]? I'm confused by your comment that you saw a drop in the "'work' being done by the machine." Can you elaborate?

[image|http://www.iwethey.org/zlogs/usage.png|0|Usage summary for z.iwethey.org|256|512]

I thought the drop from the peak in November was due to previous work on your part. Do you mean the May to June drop? What caused that again? Masses of 404s and 300s that don't hit the database very hard but clog up the pipes?

Sorry for the (likely stupid) questions. I hope you can elaborate a bit.

Thanks again. :-)

Cheers,
Scott.

Well, Knight can handle Tons of work.

It was doing alot. BEing a reverse proxy for 3+ Million requests a week. But not for the Z vhost.

It was hitting the [link|http://66.80.246.91/apache2-default/|66.80.246.91 default].

It was logging and getting the proxy requests. 3+ Million a week.

A few days ago Apache had nearly all the memory on knight tied up, I think the 14th. I've also been seeing some screwy things earlier I couldn't explain. I had a few messages in the system logs complaining about some dropped connections.

Many different things.

So in effect Apache was tanking up on the Memory. The work knight was doing was memory intensive, not very CPU intensive... swap was creeping up. SLOWING DOWN any requests or work needed to be down.

The drop from blocking the other networks in December... they were using z as the proxy host vs the open one on the default vhost. So it made a HUGE effect on Zs performance... but I now see it was in conjunction with the other stuff.

We were doing huge numbers, for proxy requests.

Post #259,211 by folkert 6/17/06 1:03:01 AM Reply	So, how is the performance of Z doing? Since I finally found the REAL problem that Anoterh Scott has been hinting about... but didna know about. I am happy he kept me honest. Thanks for the Scott. Watching [link\|http://www.gregfolkert.net/stats/uptime.html\|Uptime Stats] I have seen a serious drop in the "work" being done by the machine. But we still are getting hammered by the HUGE threads every once in a while. Other things are in effect, but over all things feel a bit more sporty, to me. How about you? -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #259,216 by bepatient 6/17/06 1:21:58 AM Reply	Much better thank you. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #259,218 by Steve Lowe 6/17/06 1:30:01 AM Reply	^ what he said. -- Steve [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu]
Post #259,220 by hnick 6/17/06 8:19:46 AM Reply	Looking much better. Thanks, much
Post #259,222 by altmann 6/17/06 9:34:27 AM Reply	Snappiness++; thankYou++ -- Chris Altmann
Post #259,224 by Another Scott 6/17/06 10:27:31 AM Reply	Indeed, it's much better. Can you elaborate? 3 kB image. Not quite "Better Than New" but very much nicer. I'd forgotten that knight [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=184201\|doesn't respond to pings or tracert], and that that's why the tracert was dying. I've found [link\|http://lists.netisland.net/archives/tcptraceroute/tcptraceroute-2005/msg00007.html\|mention of a tcptraceroute for win32], but I've been unable to find the binary thus far (I can't seem to find the thread on the [link\|http://www.barkto.com/\|barkto] [link\|news://news.barkto.com/homeless.barktopus\|newsgroup]): I uploaded Win32 binaries and source at news://news.barkto.com Group - homeless.barktopia.binaries Thread - TCPTraceroute for Win32 So the main problem was all of the traffic clogging up the pipes and the network hardware that you talked about [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=259141\|here]? I'm confused by your comment that you saw a drop in the "'work' being done by the machine." Can you elaborate? [image\|http://www.iwethey.org/zlogs/usage.png\|0\|Usage summary for z.iwethey.org\|256\|512] I thought the drop from the peak in November was due to previous work on your part. Do you mean the May to June drop? What caused that again? Masses of 404s and 300s that don't hit the database very hard but clog up the pipes? Sorry for the (likely stupid) questions. I hope you can elaborate a bit. Thanks again. :-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #259,237 by folkert 6/17/06 1:54:23 PM Reply	Okay Well, Knight can handle Tons of work. It was doing alot. BEing a reverse proxy for 3+ Million requests a week. But not for the Z vhost. It was hitting the [link\|http://66.80.246.91/apache2-default/\|66.80.246.91 default]. It was logging and getting the proxy requests. 3+ Million a week. A few days ago Apache had nearly all the memory on knight tied up, I think the 14th. I've also been seeing some screwy things earlier I couldn't explain. I had a few messages in the system logs complaining about some dropped connections. Many different things. So in effect Apache was tanking up on the Memory. The work knight was doing was memory intensive, not very CPU intensive... swap was creeping up. SLOWING DOWN any requests or work needed to be down. The drop from blocking the other networks in December... they were using z as the proxy host vs the open one on the default vhost. So it made a HUGE effect on Zs performance... but I now see it was in conjunction with the other stuff. We were doing huge numbers, for proxy requests. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #259,240 by Another Scott 6/17/06 2:06:24 PM Reply	Ah. Thanks.
Post #259,228 by imqwerky 6/17/06 11:39:43 AM Reply	Have refrained from participating in the Test Forum I think it jumped the shark awhile ago. Sigh It was fun while it lasted. Thanks for improving the speed. :) Smile, Amy [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Amy%20Rathman\|Pics of the Family]
Post #259,323 by Nightowl 6/19/06 1:29:30 AM Reply	I'm considering that, too But I haven't tried loading it since Greg fixed whatever else was slowing things, so maybe it's okay. I already marked it read tonight before I read this, so I'll try again to load it soon and see if it loads faster. :) Thanks for all your work, Greg! Brenda "When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert ************************** "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss ******************************* "Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06 *******************************
Post #259,365 by Nightowl 6/19/06 1:56:03 PM Reply	Just tried Test Forum It took 22 seconds or so to load for me. Everything seems slow today though, like everything hesitates a long time before loading. But hey, I'm on dial-up so it could be anything. Brenda "When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert ************************** "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss ******************************* "Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06 *******************************
Post #259,331 by CRConrad 6/19/06 6:12:38 AM Reply	Maybe a little better than usual... ...but then, it's always been pretty snappy from here (@ work). [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Yes Mr. Garrison, genetic engineering lets us correct God's horrible, horrible mistakes, like German people. - [link\|http://maxpages.com/southpark2k/Episode_105\|Mr. Hat]
Post #259,366 by jb4 6/19/06 2:00:28 PM Reply	Except for opening this thread... (!) Things have improved remarkably. But (and you knew this was going to happen, if you believe in the infalibility of Murphy), opening this thread took about 30 seconds or so.... I'm assuming anomaly, here.... ;-) jb4 "So don't pay attention to the approval ratings that say 68% of Americans disapprove of the job this man is doing. I ask you this, does that not also logically mean that 68% approve of the job he's not doing? Think about it. I haven't." — Stephen Colbert, at the White House Correspondent's Dinner 29Apr06
Post #259,368 by Nightowl 6/19/06 2:04:44 PM Reply	Odd... That happened to me a minute ago too. Maybe a hiccup somewhere in the transmission, probably nothing? Brenda "When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert ************************** "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss ******************************* "Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06 *******************************

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