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Post #25,783
by Ashton
1/25/02 6:14:26 PM
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New Is this happening in Oz - today ??
Are you aware of the urban legend re General Motors' alleged plot to rip up all the small + large town RRs and fill em with GM buses?

Subsequent PhD theses n'such suggest that 'conspiracy' is likely a small exaggeration. But bonus deals for local politicos + "progress" BS for relelection - was an adequate de facto 'conspiracy'.

Now at massive expense (here) some light rail is coming back.. but the car obsession has become engrained in the DNA and 'logic' was never enough in any homo-sap decision.

Fight the trend! Unless you want to look like US and soon.. begin to act like US too [???] The numbers (cost) are vastly on your side IF.. Ozfolk don't all lust for a UAV in every hovel - thus will refuse to use efficient, fast public transport (?)



Ashton
Post #25,927
by static
1/27/02 12:48:43 AM
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New Yes: said documentaary was US in origin and story.
Don't know how true it was, really, but it looked likely.

I really don't know why Sydney ditched its trams. I know their patronage had died since the years before the Depression, but Melbourne elected to keep theirs and spent a lot of money in the early '70s buying land and vastly upgrading the network. They're still expanding it today. Sydney, meanwhile has got one light-rail line, and I presume it's making money*, but adding more are a bit of a logistical and political nightmare - unlike Melbourne, Sydney doesn't really have wide enough city streets.

Wade.

* The media would tell us quicksmart if it wasn't - then too, most of it's run is on an otherwise disused goods line...

"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
     Don't bother Greenpeace with facts - (SpiceWare) - (28) - Jan. 23, 2002, 03:34:09 PM EST
         Interesting what he doesn't cover. - (Brandioch) - (27) - Jan. 23, 2002, 05:09:19 PM EST
             He does say - (SpiceWare) - (26) - Jan. 23, 2002, 05:43:02 PM EST
                 And paper mill processes remained unchanged the whole time? - (Meerkat) - (4) - Jan. 23, 2002, 05:52:20 PM EST
                     I'm sure they have changed - (SpiceWare) - (3) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:05:36 PM EST
                         Industry doesn't have to go away - (Meerkat) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:11:56 PM EST
                         It is possible to clean up and keep the industries. - (Brandioch) - (1) - Jan. 23, 2002, 07:39:44 PM EST
                             Mooned River - (tablizer) - Jan. 27, 2002, 12:50:39 AM EST
                 It seems to me... - (bepatient) - (6) - Jan. 23, 2002, 05:53:36 PM EST
                     Sheesh, aren't you easily duped, then -NT - (CRConrad) - (5) - Jan. 23, 2002, 06:07:03 PM EST
                         Really? How so? - (bepatient) - (4) - Jan. 23, 2002, 09:21:50 PM EST
                             The usual; too much of a "Go Big Corps, Go!" rah-rah. - (CRConrad) - (3) - Jan. 28, 2002, 03:00:00 AM EST
                                 Welcome to the big time. - (bepatient) - (2) - Jan. 28, 2002, 09:33:27 AM EST
                                     Oh yeah, no disagreement on *that* score. - (CRConrad) - (1) - Jan. 28, 2002, 04:51:58 PM EST
                                         They're an interesting bunch... - (bepatient) - Jan. 28, 2002, 05:06:42 PM EST
                 How about a correction, then? - (Brandioch) - (13) - Jan. 23, 2002, 07:41:52 PM EST
                     Facts, man, facts. - (wharris2) - (12) - Jan. 23, 2002, 08:48:24 PM EST
                         What really steams me... - (marlowe) - (11) - Jan. 24, 2002, 12:15:13 PM EST
                             diesel can be very low emission, but not in the US - (tonytib) - (6) - Jan. 24, 2002, 01:21:29 PM EST
                                 Re: diesel can be very low emission, but not in the US - (jb4) - (5) - Jan. 24, 2002, 01:52:34 PM EST
                                     When Ronny became President . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Jan. 24, 2002, 04:28:09 PM EST
                                         Thanks, Andrew - (jb4) - (3) - Jan. 24, 2002, 06:31:12 PM EST
                                             Nah, would've given you that one. -NT - (bepatient) - (2) - Jan. 24, 2002, 07:12:42 PM EST
                                                 Thanks, buddy! - (jb4) - (1) - Jan. 25, 2002, 08:50:00 AM EST
                                                     No prob... - (bepatient) - Jan. 25, 2002, 12:08:59 PM EST
                             Public Transportation. - (static) - (3) - Jan. 24, 2002, 08:16:07 PM EST
                                 That's not quite what gets my goat - (wharris2) - Jan. 25, 2002, 09:56:54 AM EST
                                 Is this happening in Oz - today ?? - (Ashton) - (1) - Jan. 25, 2002, 06:14:26 PM EST
                                     Yes: said documentaary was US in origin and story. - (static) - Jan. 27, 2002, 12:48:43 AM EST

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