Post #257,692
6/4/06 2:45:02 PM
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rc peers over his burgeoning midriff at the bathroom scale
...and does not care for the number displayed thereupon.
I'm looking to shed three pounds a month between now and approximately fourteen months hence, when my personal odometer rolls over to 55. At the moment I have re-achieved an unwelcome mark I first hit a little over ten years ago, before contriving, between influenza, chain-smoking, stress, jetlag, long walks and meagre meals, to shed about a pound a day over the course of a month. I was younger then, of course, and the particular circumstances governing that dramatic and satisfying slimming would be difficult and costly to reproduce, so I'm exploring other options.
For reasons to be divulged on the occasion next year (but which have to do, of course, principally with considerations of vanity) I'm keen to lose about 45 pounds between now and early August 07. Does anyone here have comparable weight-loss experience, and are you prepared to share the procedure? Ideally I would prefer a regimen that involves no exercise, no restrictions on the categories or quantities of food and drink I consume, and no wasting diseases or intestinal parasites, but my preliminary research suggests that I may need to yield on one or more of these points if I'm serious about retrieving my boyish figger.
Suggestions and advice gratefully considered.
cordially,
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Post #257,693
6/4/06 3:14:01 PM
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The Hacker's Diet has fans here.
[link|http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/hackdiet.html|The Hacker's Diet]. I haven't tried it myself.
I haven't tried to do what you're attempting, but I'm half-heartedly working on losing about 10 pounds. (I need to apply myself more.) A few things I've figured out over the years (YMMV):
1) Eating is a habit. The pangs that I feel around meal time aren't hunger, they're just my body telling me it's time to eat. Skipping eating for a day reminds me what hunger pangs are like.
2) Cutting out cheap calories is relatively painless. Don't drink sugar/corn syrup sweetened beverages. Substitute water. 100 calories is ~ 10 minutes of fairly vigorous exercise. A pound a week is 3500 calories per week (500 calories per day, 7 days a week). If you go out to dinner, don't eat more than half the meal. Take the rest home.
3) Carbs generally make me hungry. Don't snack on chips or pretzels or candy bars. If you must snack, eat fruit or carrots or beef jerky or something other than grain-based carbs.
4) If you snack when you work or when you relax in front of the TV (or whatever), find another habit to do while you're working. Don't let habits cause you to eat more than you should.
5) Exercise makes you feel less hungry. Make time to go on a regular evening walk with your sweety. Get a dog if you don't have an excuse. It's relaxing and good exercise.
HTH a bit. Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #257,695
6/4/06 3:28:03 PM
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I quit drinking soft drinks years ago
I was amazed at how much of an impact that made. Carbonated beverages make you retain water and do not quench your thirst. Nowadays, a softdrink is a rare treat. (Orange or Root Beer :-) )
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Post #257,696
6/4/06 3:48:44 PM
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Just did exactly that, a bit quicker though.
45 pounds in about 6 months.
Atkins combined with gym.
Having NEVER exercised in my life, the 1st couple of weeks were a shocker. I then really got into it. I just got back from the gym. I have a few hours of Terry Pratchett in MP3s, so I actually don't like to stop, and only do when I HAVE to.
Now I'm on maintentance. I hit my goal, ie: 170, and then I'll float up a few pounds, and then work to get it off. But it is not HARD work. Part of that is transforming the final bits of fat into muscle, so I don't really mind the weight.
Now when I'm not strictly on Atkins, I pay closer attention to the food I eat. If I am eating carbs, I try to make sure they are low glycemic.
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I RARELY drink high fructose anything (soda, juice, etc). No mixed drinks, either.
On the other hand, when on Atkins, alcohol is essentially a freebie so as much straight rum as I want.
It has gotten a lot easier than in the beginning. I used to be sore. No longer. More energy, more strength, etc. My joints feel MUCH better.
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Post #257,701
6/4/06 5:58:00 PM
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Never trust the diet of a man who died an 18st fat knacker.
That's 3st heavier than me, and I'm a stone over what I should be (for a 6'3" chap in early 30s).
(Trans for .US readers: a stone is 14 pounds. Any man who's 18 stone and not a world-class bodybuilder is either morbidly obese or about eight feet tall).
Peter
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Post #257,702
6/4/06 6:27:59 PM
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While not an Atkins fan, I refer you to Snopes.
A lot of what has been said is probably misrepresented, as summerized on [link|http://www.snopes.com/medical/doctor/atkins.asp|Snopes] and in other places.
I suspect sticking to the Atkins diet over a long term may result in some health problems, but I am gratefull for Dr. Atkins exposing the American Heart Association's dangerous bullpucky for what it is. None of what the AHA predicts happened to Atkins dieters, in fact the opposite in many cases (friends of mine had carefully medical monitoring while on it and experience mild improvement in heart related factors).
Dr. Atkins admitted strict adherence to his weight loss diet results in some hair loss, but pointed out that other rapid weight loss diets produced more severe hair loss than his.
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Post #257,703
6/4/06 6:48:58 PM
6/4/06 6:50:24 PM
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I'm not on about that.
It's the fact that this diet's leading proponent was morbidly obese. If the man who thought it up couldn't stick to it or make it work, what does that tell you about what he thought of its worth?
The bad breath and not being able to produce anything that one would ever describe as "too beautiful to flush" were enough to turn me off it (ask Scott about the necessity of a vegetation-heavy diet in the production of world-class grogans). My brother-in-law also lost loads of weight on it, but once he came off it (at the insistence of my sister), he put all the weight back on. Interestingly, his mood improved markedly once he started eating normally.
(Edit: Mentioning Scott made me think that he should market his diet. The man's a twig. The "World-class Grogan And Really Thin Veggie Diet", or something.)
It's like all extreme/rapid-weight-loss diets - a bad idea.
Eat sensibly and get some exercise. If calories expended > calories eaten, weight loss will result. Ask any dietician or nutritionist - the unpopular truth is that there are no easy long term answers, only self-discipline and exercise.
Also, while experts are not completely unanimous, it's the general opinion that more fibre helps to protect against colorectal cancer.
And I don't want to be killed by my own arse.
Peter
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Edited by pwhysall
June 4, 2006, 06:50:24 PM EDT
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Post #257,706
6/4/06 7:04:10 PM
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No he wasn't
However, Atkins' widow and Dr. Stuart Trager, the spokesperson for Atkins Physicians Council, both contend Robert Atkins weighed less than 200 pounds at the time of his accident, claiming "During his coma, as he deteriorated and his major organs failed, fluid retention and bloating dramatically distorted his body and left him at 258 pounds at the time of his death, a documented weight gain of over 60 pounds."
Thanks to his death certificate (as displayed at The Smoking Gun), we know Atkins was 258 pounds at the time of his death. Yet according to a copy of his medical records, as turned over to USA Today by the diet guru's widow, Atkins weighed 195 pounds upon admission to the hospital 8 April 2003 following his fall. He died on 17 April 2003 after having been in a coma for more than a week.
He was 14 St (what a silly measurement) when he hit his head. He swelled up with fluid during the coma.
I'd be quite happy to be 6 feet tall and weigh 195 pounds.
And as far as fiber, you are right. Metamucil every day for me.
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Post #257,722
6/5/06 9:46:27 AM
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one hike into the hills and drink water from a creek
I know, but that only includes one of the negatives you mentioned. Also depends on whether your colon is hardy enough to handle it. Weight loss gets harder as we grow older. Personally I eat the same crap, just less of it.
thanx,
bill
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