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Post #257,532 by warmachine 6/2/06 8:49:42 AM Reply	Red-blue divide? Some people on various bulletin boards regard this is draining money from known, Democrat voting areas. Any thoughts from anybody? Matthew Greet Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin? - Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
Post #257,542 by jbrabeck 6/2/06 10:15:10 AM Reply	To what avail? To piss off the democrats and ensure that they get out and vote again? Only place that might have a chance would be in the swing states, those that were marginally blue to get them to swing to red. My first thoughts. A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)
Post #257,543 by andread 6/2/06 10:18:49 AM Reply	Since the money is basically wasted anyway it makes sense to spend it on your cronies A Play I Some Music w/ Papa Andy Saturday 8 PM - 11 PM ET All Night Rewind 11 PM - 5 PM Reggae, African and Caribbean Music [link\|http://wxxe.org\|Tune In]
Post #257,561 by jb4 6/2/06 11:36:59 AM Reply	I dunno In the same story, it states that Illinois, and specifically Chicago, will get substantially more (don't rememeber exact figures, but IIRC there is a double-digit % increase). Illinois is rather bluish, and it don't get more blue that Chicago.... (After all we invented the Blues! :-0 ) jb4 "So don't pay attention to the approval ratings that say 68% of Americans disapprove of the job this man is doing. I ask you this, does that not also logically mean that 68% approve of the job he's not doing? Think about it. I haven't." — Stephen Colbert, at the White House Correspondent's Dinner 29Apr06
Post #257,549 by Another Scott 6/2/06 10:44:19 AM Reply	That's an obvious 1st impression. However, Chertoff claims it was done based on the merits and that he had no imput in deciding which areas got how much money. Without delving into the details, it's hard to know whether there's hanky-panky going on or not. A DHS press release about the grants is [link\|http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/display?content=5667\|here] with links to the actual numbers ([link\|http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interweb/assetlibrary/grants_st-local_fy06.pdf\|2 page .pdf]) and links to other information. Comparing this years numbers to older ones is left as an exercise for the reader. Do note, though, that California gets more total money in these programs than NY and that's hardly Bush country. Cheers, Scott. (Who agrees it looks like NY and DC are being punished, but who isn't ready to say that that's what's happening. Note that NY's been very good in milking this particular funding source.)
Post #257,553 by JayMehaffey 6/2/06 11:07:17 AM Reply	It is certainly possible The DHS does spend more money on big cities then the rest of the country, but on a per capita basis it favors low population areas. It is hard to say just how much of this bias is anti-democratic bias but it does appear to be there. Jay

NY has no landmarks? - (JayMehaffey) - (25) - June 1, 2006, 04:02:34 PM EDT

Really? (Lots of images) - (drewk) - (1) - June 1, 2006, 04:24:48 PM EDT

The Chrysler building! - (folkert) - June 2, 2006, 09:12:39 AM EDT

Chertoff spins it on the News Hour - (Another Scott) - June 1, 2006, 08:07:58 PM EDT

Red-blue divide? - (warmachine) - (5) - June 2, 2006, 08:49:42 AM EDT

To what avail? - (jbrabeck) - (2) - June 2, 2006, 10:15:10 AM EDT

Since the money is basically wasted anyway - (andread) - June 2, 2006, 10:18:49 AM EDT

I dunno - (jb4) - June 2, 2006, 11:36:59 AM EDT

That's an obvious 1st impression. - (Another Scott) - June 2, 2006, 10:44:19 AM EDT

It is certainly possible - (JayMehaffey) - June 2, 2006, 11:07:17 AM EDT

Maybe they said that because... - (dmcarls) - (15) - June 2, 2006, 02:06:54 PM EDT

Well, - (imqwerky) - (14) - June 2, 2006, 02:14:35 PM EDT

Alternately... - (hnick) - (13) - June 2, 2006, 03:28:01 PM EDT

Well said. - (imqwerky) - (2) - June 2, 2006, 03:57:30 PM EDT

None taken at all... - (hnick) - (1) - June 2, 2006, 04:09:19 PM EDT

:-) -NT - (imqwerky) - June 2, 2006, 04:32:18 PM EDT

Hugh, that was well over the line - (ben_tilly) - (9) - June 2, 2006, 05:14:17 PM EDT

Ok, don't laugh - (hnick) - (8) - June 2, 2006, 06:07:43 PM EDT

You should have stopped - (ben_tilly) - (7) - June 2, 2006, 07:13:09 PM EDT

What I find it really offensive... - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - June 4, 2006, 08:29:50 AM EDT

It's a matter of scale - (ben_tilly) - June 5, 2006, 01:23:45 PM EDT

Amen. - (jb4) - June 5, 2006, 02:15:49 PM EDT

do you now take into consideration you might be a target? - (boxley) - (3) - June 4, 2006, 11:20:13 AM EDT

Amen, bro! - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - June 4, 2006, 06:50:57 PM EDT

Bush worries me more than terrorists as well - (ben_tilly) - June 5, 2006, 01:26:35 PM EDT

Of course I do - (ben_tilly) - June 5, 2006, 01:25:08 PM EDT

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