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Post #254,748 by CRConrad 5/8/06 10:08:40 AM Reply	That's not manual enough; probably not really manual at all. From the article: The canopy became stuck in the down and locked position and could not be opened manually after the pilot cycled the mechanism several times, following a pre-flight warning that the canopy was unlocked. That "cycled the mechanism" bit, that sounds like he pushed a button several times -- like it's an electronic or electro-hydraulic "manual" release. For purposes like this, you don't want a bunch of thingamajigs that can decide to want something different than what you tell them to. What you want for your manual release, is a good old purely mechanical thing -- where you can see how the handle you turn is directly connected to a hook that goes into a latch. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Yes Mr. Garrison, genetic engineering lets us correct God's horrible, horrible mistakes, like German people. - [link\|http://maxpages.com/southpark2k/Episode_105\|Mr. Hat]
Post #254,779 by folkert 5/8/06 1:48:34 PM Reply	Could it have been... A pump arm that he cycled? And the Mechanism was jammed so hard it wouldn't budge? Maybe they gotta design the old fashioned screw type manual release, possibly aided electrically... IF the plane still has power... Or good ole muscles. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #254,789 by CRConrad 5/8/06 4:27:27 PM Reply	If it didn't budge, how did he "cycle" it?
Post #254,797 by folkert 5/8/06 6:06:32 PM Reply	Oh. Are you telling me, that you've never experienced brakes not working... no matter HOW many times you pump(cycle) them? -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #254,799 by ben_tilly 5/8/06 7:11:57 PM Reply	Remind me not to ride in your car I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #254,843 by folkert 5/9/06 11:54:31 AM Reply	That would be for other reasons... No Brakes are not an issue, at least how I drive. But, my brakes get regular service about every 30K miles. Just about the same for new tires. I'm at 51K right now and I just noticed on this tire rotation that one set of tires has its outside corners worn pretty good compared to the other set. Rear brakes are squeaking on the noise makers... I use the manual brake quite a bit for slowing down, while down shifting. Front brakes are pretty good yet, I guess I'll have to lay off the manual lever for a bit. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #254,829 by CRConrad 5/9/06 2:05:05 AM Reply	Ah - so that was some other "mechanism"... ...that supposedly "didn't budge", not that of the "pump arm" you were talking about? I think you see the problem now -- if the connection is that indirect, then it's _not "manual" enough_. And yes, of course I've had that happen, lots of times... With the car standing still and jacked up, while working on the brakes. Never otherwise -- perhaps because I took care to do it while standing still and jacked up. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Yes Mr. Garrison, genetic engineering lets us correct God's horrible, horrible mistakes, like German people. - [link\|http://maxpages.com/southpark2k/Episode_105\|Mr. Hat]
Post #254,844 by folkert 5/9/06 11:57:45 AM Reply	Nothing on these recently developed jets is manual enough. Some longtime pilots are having issues with the flight computer "interpreting" the stick and pedal movements. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.

New ejection mechanism for F-22A Raptor fighter. 36 kB img. - (Another Scott) - (10) - May 2, 2006, 09:36:08 PM EDT

WTF - (JayMehaffey) - (9) - May 2, 2006, 10:52:07 PM EDT

There is a manual release. It didn't work. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (8) - May 2, 2006, 11:07:39 PM EDT

That's not manual enough; probably not really manual at all. - (CRConrad) - (7) - May 8, 2006, 10:08:40 AM EDT

Could it have been... - (folkert) - (6) - May 8, 2006, 01:48:34 PM EDT

If it didn't budge, how did he "cycle" it? -NT - (CRConrad) - (5) - May 8, 2006, 04:27:27 PM EDT

Oh. - (folkert) - (4) - May 8, 2006, 06:06:32 PM EDT

Remind me not to ride in your car -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1) - May 8, 2006, 07:11:57 PM EDT

That would be for other reasons... - (folkert) - May 9, 2006, 11:54:31 AM EDT

Ah - so that was some *other* "mechanism"... - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 9, 2006, 02:05:05 AM EDT

Nothing on these recently developed - (folkert) - May 9, 2006, 11:57:45 AM EDT

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