Post #254,181
5/2/06 3:16:55 PM
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Men's clothing question
This seems completely obvious to me, but I've had two women question it.
Can a man wear a pin-stripe suit coat with solid pants? - I said no. Can a man wear a solid suit coat with pin-stripe pants? - depends.
I know anything goes with a 'casual' look, but this is for business dress, not business casual.
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Post #254,184
5/2/06 3:24:46 PM
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I agree on the first
The second, I can't think of that working. I've seen things like tweed or herringbone with solid, but with pinstripe the jacket and pants pretty much have to be a suit, don't they?
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Post #254,189
5/2/06 3:41:51 PM
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The only pin stripes I have are in suits, only worn together
I don't know what the "rules" are, but it would look strange to me to wear the pinstripe jacket or pants separately. But I'm sure it depends on the audience and how contrasty the stripes are.
So, I agree.
FWIW.
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #254,190
5/2/06 3:42:55 PM
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That's what I've tried to tell 'em.
pin stripes are suits - matched pair.
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Post #254,191
5/2/06 3:46:57 PM
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Only wear if it passes the sniff test.
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Post #254,200
5/2/06 5:42:37 PM
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No and No
Stripe on Stripe or solid on solid. Don't mix the 2.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #254,203
5/2/06 5:47:13 PM
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Aw, Come on, now, Bugsy! Stripes wit Solids!
an' a big, fat, white tie!
ta match da shoes
;) Amy
an' don't ferget da tommygun!
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Post #254,205
5/2/06 6:04:26 PM
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What he said.
For a shirt and trousers, sure, you can have stripe on solid, or solid on stripe. But for jackets and trousers? Uh-uh.
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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Post #254,206
5/2/06 6:07:51 PM
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The first: No. The second used to be de rigeur in Germany...
...in some situations. With a grey vest and tie, the combination was known as "[link|http://www.uwefenner.de/die-funfziger-und-sechziger-jahre/|der kleine Stresemann]" (named for the minister of the exterior of the Weimar Republic, and apparently became something of a uniform for German diplomats for a long while after that; nowadays, it's apparently sunk to working dress for higher staff at posh hotels.) Striped trousers are also worn with a [link|http://www.uwefenner.de/dresscodekleidung-was-fur-ein-anzug-bei-hochoffiziellen-und-sehr-feierlichen-und-festlichen-veranstaltungen-am-der-cutaway/|cutaway coat] in Germany. (Or perhaps mainly, were -- because that coat is likely worn a lot less today.)
Not that this has much of anything to do with your question...
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Post #254,212
5/2/06 7:11:24 PM
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Called a "morning coat" here
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Was popular for weddings for a while. Now mostly seen in hotels.
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Post #254,255
5/3/06 9:02:54 AM
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Reply from the "old school":
If its truly a "suit" then the coat and slacks should match.
That said, every so often (approx 30 years or so), we see the re-emergence of the dissimilar coat and slacks set. When I was working at Baskins (a now defunct clothing store chain in the Chicago area; specialized in the very conservative Hart, Shaffner and Marx brand) some <mumble 30+> years ago, they occasionally had suits with 2 sets of slacks. The non-matching slacks were always plain (i.e. non-patterned). Nowadays, we have the euphemistically monikered "suit separates" (which, when I first heard the term, thought was referring to ladies clothing). This gambit appears to be the same thing as the Baskin 2-slacks thing, except without the 2nd pair of slacks.
Basically, my OF (old fogey) counsel would be this: If you're in a business attire situation where "dressing for success" (and all that implies) is required, do one of the following:
* Wear a suit, wit the slacks matching the suit coat.
* Wear a sportcoat and coordinating slacks.
* Never wear patterned slacks with anything other than a matching coat.
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Post #254,266
5/3/06 10:15:37 AM
5/3/06 10:19:00 AM
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Aaiieee! Recovered memory!
Yes indeedy, 30 years ago is right on the mark for "suit separates." I'd quite forgotten that, but in 1976 I was [link|http://homepage.mac.com/rcareaga/.Pictures/p1976.jpg|married] in a (shudder) solid brown three-piece suit sold with a second pair of slacks patterned in a ghastly houndstooth (cringe). The vest, moreover, was (whimper) reversible, with the same houndstooth available at need. This being 1976, of course, it came with lapels that could puncture the eye of someone at close quarters, as in a crowded subway car, and was typically worn with a necktie the size of a bib.
Many of our fashion decisions in that era were not as well thought out as they might have been. And the kitchen appliances in avocado and burnt-puke yellow—what was that all about?
I was considerably leaner, if not nearly as mean, in those days, and by the early 1990s the whole ensemble, long unworn and by then long unwearable, found its way to the Salvation Army in the course of a move to smaller quarters. With the present spike in energy prices I regret having parted with it: surely it could be profitably rendered today for its petroleum content, yielding a vast and fabulous sum to provide for me in my sunset years.
senescently (but with marginally better fashion sense, it is devoutly to be hoped),
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Edited by rcareaga
May 3, 2006, 10:19:00 AM EDT
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Post #254,268
5/3/06 10:42:29 AM
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So handsome!
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Post #254,269
5/3/06 10:55:11 AM
5/3/06 10:56:23 AM
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And don't forget . . .
. . the vomit green and barf "gold" shag carpeting (also available in Halloween orange).
Fortunately, even one as elderly as I can blame this fashion fiasco on the previous generation's bad taste. Avacado refrigerators had pretty much left the scene by time I was old enough to buy a fridge.
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Post #254,345
5/3/06 9:53:35 PM
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Hey, my house had all those in it
When I bought it. Along with pastel walls, green, yellow, purple, and even a pink room. Orange and black shag carpet. Kitchen had gold wallpaper with black flock stripes. Oh, and a mismatch of avacoda and havest gold applicance with a green and white linoleum floor.
Carpet lasted until we closed. 20 gallons of off white paint to neutralize rooms. Kitchen wall paper came down immediately. Applicances and floor lasted 2 years until I could afford to remodel the kitchen.
No wonder the previous owner's kids refused to bring their friends over to visit (Two of the kids came by to see the "old home" about 10 years after I purchased it.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)
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Post #254,348
5/3/06 10:17:11 PM
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I was lucky.
Avocado green shag carpet in one bedroom. Everything else predated that era. I ripped out the carpet and sanded and varnished the floor before I moved in.
Only one appliance, a 1940s Wedgewood chrome top stove with center griddle. The instant the real estate lady saw it she said "stove stays".
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