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New I'll simplify some more
READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE!




You know, the one at the top of this thread.


The one with a headline of
Professor Predicts Human Time Travel This Century


Did you see it? Good.

Now, given that my first post -- the first content in this thread that wasn't a quote from that article -- was in reference to and in the context of that statement; and given that my first response to you was to refer you back to that article; do you finally see why I'm not the one missing the point?
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New I have to read the article to disagree with you? why?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
New The specific disagreement he made, yes
When I say, "The position put forth in the article is bogus," to say that I'm wrong it would help to know what it is the article says.
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New But....
If a time traveler from the distant future travels to the timeframe specified within the article, wouldn't that satisfy the prediction?
New That'll work, but kind of hard to *perform* that experiment
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New It's been done.
[link|http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12208638/|MSNBC] via [link|http://www.theinquirer.net/|The Inquirer]:

Chiropractor claims to travel through time

Updated: 4:16 p.m. ET April 7, 2006

COLUMBUS, Ohio - A chiropractor who claims he can treat anyone by reaching back in time to when an injury occurred has attracted the attention of state regulators.

The Ohio State Chiropractic Board, in a notice of hearing, has accused James Burda of Athens of being "unable to practice chiropractic according to acceptable and prevailing standards of care due to mental illness, specifically, Delusional Disorder, Grandiose Type."

Burda denied that he is mentally ill. He said he possesses a skill he discovered by accident while driving six years ago. [...]


Cheers,
Scott.
New This is getting silly
Drew, I read the article. I understand it. And I agree with your current criticism.

However your current criticism has nothing to do with your initial comments. And my reaction to your original comments still stands.

We could go through a bunch more rounds of this, with your trying to yell louder and louder, and me pointing out that what you're yelling about has nothing to do with the start of our conversation. But I'll make this the last round because I see no point in continuing to repeat myself.

So go ahead. Yell again. Call me names. Whatever you like. The last word is yours.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Still, in Bertie's words -
(Russell)

Mathematics may be defined as the subject in which we never know what we are talking about, nor whether what we are saying is true.

(That is - too - when speaking of 'the arrow of time' etc. etc. via means of mathematical manipulations of formulae ... such exercises probably are covered in that blanket statement: which neatly slips in the Biggest bugaboo of all (?) an idea of the true. The whole topic IMO is squarely akin to all published essays on 'causality' - ie you/theProf are in metaphysics territory; love it or leave it. ;-)

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     time and space story - (boxley) - (26)
         No reason to think you can go backwards - (drewk) - (25)
             General relativity allows backwards time travel - (ben_tilly) - (24)
                 The article addressed that - (drewk) - (23)
                     Point missed - (ben_tilly) - (22)
                         Your faith is touching - (drewk) - (21)
                             The point still stands - (ben_tilly) - (20)
                                 We just place the bar at different points - (drewk) - (19)
                                     You were criticizing general relativity, not string theory - (ben_tilly) - (18)
                                         We have measured the distance to over 8000 stars: Parallax. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                             But only indirectly - (ben_tilly)
                                         Show me where I did that? - (drewk) - (15)
                                             OK... - (ben_tilly) - (14)
                                                 Like I said, we just set the bar at different levels - (drewk) - (13)
                                                     Yet you believe that stars are lighted by fusion and... - (ben_tilly) - (12)
                                                         Now you're telling me what I believe? - (drewk) - (11)
                                                             And I was right, too! - (ben_tilly) - (10)
                                                                 I'll simplify - (drewk) - (9)
                                                                     I'll complexify - (ben_tilly) - (8)
                                                                         I'll simplify some more - (drewk) - (7)
                                                                             I have to read the article to disagree with you? why? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                 The specific disagreement he made, yes - (drewk)
                                                                             But.... - (broomberg) - (2)
                                                                                 That'll work, but kind of hard to *perform* that experiment -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                                     It's been done. - (Another Scott)
                                                                             This is getting silly - (ben_tilly)
                                                                             Still, in Bertie's words - - (Ashton)

I'll see you on the dark side of the Moon.
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