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Post #251,266 by lincoln 4/6/06 10:46:55 PM Reply	Now my kids want me to buy Photoshop so they can make their own creations. I don't think I'll be buying it at that price (or any price). lincoln "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a *Citizen* of the United States. [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #251,275 by broomberg 4/6/06 11:25:49 PM Reply	Gimp is your friend
Post #251,333 by lincoln 4/7/06 3:38:23 PM Reply	I tried it once and I'll never try it again. First off, I let it do everything it wanted to do as it installed, and I answered yes to every prompt. I opened it up to try it out. Pulled in a .JPG file and thought, "let's crop it". So I go to the menu bar and drop down to where that command should be, and saw that it was grayed out. That's gotta be a pretty common function that people want, and it was not available. So I figure, "let's read the included Help documentation to see what the problem was at installation, or if there are any alternatives." So I click on "Help" and get a nice error message telling me that "Help was not installed." WTF!!! When things like common functionality should be there but aren't, and a program can't even properly install its own help files, I'll move onto something else. lincoln "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a *Citizen* of the United States. [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #251,335 by Another Scott 4/7/06 3:50:18 PM Reply	How long ago? Making pictures like those shown in Drew's links isn't trivial. You and your kids will need a capable tool to do so. Many Linux distros have The Gimp pre-configured. There are also [link\|http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html\|Windows installers] for it and its dependencies. (Note the Help file is separate.) Feel free to buy Photoshop. But don't give up after one attempt on something free. Good luck. Cheers, Scott. (Who has [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=188271\|very little experience] with The Gimp.)
Post #251,337 by lincoln 4/7/06 3:55:03 PM Reply	About 1 1/2 years ago maybe its installation has improved since then, but I'm not going out of my way to try it again real soon. lincoln "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a *Citizen* of the United States. [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #251,349 by broomberg 4/7/06 7:06:35 PM Reply	It's in there Gimp 2.2.10 on Windows. F1 launched browser into help docs. /crop - took me to the link. Click went to the crop tool description. I'm a bit confused by what you meant by the menu item though. I only see "Autocrop Image" and "Zealous Crop" on the menu. I've used "Autocrop" to remove whitespace that surrounded images. As others have point out, using Gimp or Photoshop to create the type of images that are on that site a "non-trivial", and this is a major understatement. Fscking hard is where it begins.

I want these - (drewk) - (17) - April 4, 2006, 05:17:46 PM EDT

2 blank pages with the url on them? -NT - (boxley) - (4) - April 4, 2006, 05:22:54 PM EDT

Anyone else see them? Is that a session URL? -NT - (drewk) - (3) - April 4, 2006, 05:41:14 PM EDT

Initially, you just get the URL - (hnick) - (2) - April 4, 2006, 05:45:34 PM EDT

Mouse pad and CD-R -NT - (drewk) - April 4, 2006, 05:52:51 PM EDT

Too much trouble - just hit the "Go" button next to the url - (Andrew Grygus) - April 4, 2006, 06:18:15 PM EDT

Several of these are cool, too - (drewk) - (1) - April 4, 2006, 08:23:06 PM EDT

The Green Dwarf looks like Brain - (imqwerky) - April 4, 2006, 08:47:15 PM EDT

I think Rand will appreciate these - (drewk) - April 4, 2006, 08:49:42 PM EDT

None for me - (broomberg) - (1) - April 5, 2006, 12:02:32 AM EDT

Really? - (a6l6e6x) - April 5, 2006, 11:08:45 PM EDT

Some of the Visible Puns are pretty good - (SpiceWare) - April 6, 2006, 02:07:09 PM EDT

Now my kids want me to buy Photoshop - (lincoln) - (5) - April 6, 2006, 10:46:55 PM EDT

Gimp is your friend -NT - (broomberg) - (4) - April 6, 2006, 11:25:49 PM EDT

I tried it once - (lincoln) - (3) - April 7, 2006, 03:38:23 PM EDT

How long ago? - (Another Scott) - (1) - April 7, 2006, 03:50:18 PM EDT

About 1 1/2 years ago - (lincoln) - April 7, 2006, 03:55:03 PM EDT

It's in there - (broomberg) - April 7, 2006, 07:06:35 PM EDT

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