Post #251,082
4/5/06 10:28:24 AM
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Apple unveils software that lets Macs run Windows
From [link|http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/macos/story/0,10801,110220,00.html?source=NLT_MAC&nid=110220|ComputerWorld] APRIL 05, 2006 (COMPUTERWORLD) - Apple today unveiled a public beta of "Boot Camp," software that allows its latest Intel-based Macintosh desktop and laptop machines to run Windows XP natively.
The software will be included in the next version of Mac OS X, version 10.5 or "Leopard," which is due out late this year.
\ufffdApple has no desire or plan to sell or support Windows, but many customers have expressed their interest to run Windows on Apple\ufffds superior hardware now that we use Intel processors,\ufffd Philip Schiller, Apple\ufffds senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing said in a statement. \ufffdWe think Boot Camp makes the Mac even more appealing to Windows users considering making the switch.\ufffd A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)
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Post #251,084
4/5/06 10:34:41 AM
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linky
Posted a link to the Apple page in the Mac forum [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=251077|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=251077]
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Post #251,086
4/5/06 11:43:01 AM
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Sorry, I have MAC forum turned off
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)
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Post #251,085
4/5/06 11:37:57 AM
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It's all a great conspiracy . . . .
. . soon Macs will ship with Windows by default and Steve Jobs will take over from Steve Ballmer at Microsoft.
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Post #251,087
4/5/06 11:44:17 AM
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You mean...no more "Monkeyboy Dance" videos?
Where's that sign?
lincoln
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Post #251,092
4/5/06 12:07:05 PM
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Maybe it'll be in the contract . . .
. . that Steve Jobs has to a shadow dance at ISV meetings with his iPod playing "Developers! Developers!" - and once a year there will be a ceremonial chair throwing.
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Post #251,093
4/5/06 12:08:15 PM
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Dual boot is so last century
We want [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?newsID=5712|virtualization]. Virtualisation software company Parallels said it will announce a virtualisation product for Intel-powered Macs, with more details becoming available later this week.
According to spokesman Ben Rudolph: "We will enable users to run multiple operating systems (like Linux and Windows) simultaneously with Mac OS X. This is not simply a "dual-boot" but instead gives our users the ability to use Windows or any other operating system at the same time as Mac OS X, enabling users to enjoy the comfort of their Mac OS X desktop while still being able to use critical applications from other OSes."
Parallels is a privately held, US-based software company that launched its first virtualisation tool, Parallels Workstation, last year. The Russian-developed software competes directly with VMware Workstation and Microsoft Virtual PC, albeit -- at the time of launch - -at a lower price.
Since then. VMware has started giving away VMware Player.
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Post #251,120
4/5/06 4:10:57 PM
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Yeah, but VMWARE did it to compete against Microsoft version
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Post #251,163
4/5/06 10:34:28 PM
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Re: virtualization?
You must mean the [link|http://www.webpronews.com/blogtalk/blogtalk/wpn-58-20060405MicrosoftFreesVirtualServer2005R2Enterprise.html|Microsoft innovation]! Microsoft will also use LinuxWorld to announce the availability of virtual machine add-ins for Linux, which until now have been beta tested only by a closed group of Linux customers. [image|/forums/images/warning.png|0|This is sarcasm...] Alex
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Post #251,173
4/5/06 11:38:12 PM
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NT Services for UNIX - Mark II
[link|http://www.research.att.com/lists/uwin-users/1998/05/msg00010.html|From May 1998]. Great, more Microsoft crap that doesn't work to spend sleepless nights on. :-) Cheers, Scott.
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Post #251,184
4/6/06 9:54:28 AM
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I remember a redmond evangelist
trying to convince me that the best way to run sco unix was on top of NT. 2 turds in one flush.
thanx,
bill
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Post #251,212
4/6/06 1:45:03 PM
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ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #251211 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=251211|ICLRPD]
jb4
"Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'."
&mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
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Post #251,174
4/6/06 12:24:00 AM
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At work we are using Xen
to glom multiple lightly loaded servers onto one chunk of hardware. The cost savings are amazing.
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Post #251,176
4/6/06 1:01:47 AM
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AHHh....
Karsten was last reported to work there.
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Post #251,295
4/7/06 3:48:43 AM
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I believe that that report is out of date
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #251,224
4/6/06 3:35:39 PM
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Parallels now has free beta
[link|http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/mac/|http://www.parallels.../workstation/mac/]
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Post #257,938
6/6/06 10:48:54 PM
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It's slick
I'll be buying it in a couple days when my AMEX starts its next billing cycle.
So far I have XP running on it. Network transfers seem a bit slower than under OS X, but nothing terrible. I've installed Firefox and iTunes so far. iTunes was able to see my iMac' s library and I was able to play music and videos (even hi-def 720p ones!) over the network without any problems. The hi-def videos had some occasional jitter and shearing that are not apparent when I ran the same video using the MacBook's OS X copy of iTunes. Just for grins I put some videos the MacBook's OS X's iTunes and set it up to share. I then ran iTunes under XP where it saw and played back the video. The normal videos played back fine, but the hi-def videos had a much much bigger problem with jitter and shearing.
When I initially set up Parallels and switched XP to full-screen(which transitions using the Mac's "rotating cube" effect), I changed XP's resolution to 1280x800 to match the MacBook's display. When I switched back to windowed mode, the display remained 1280x800. My MacAddict arrived today and included an overview of Boot Camp and Parallels. It had a side box with "Tools Rule" that said to start the Windows VM, then switch to OS X(while leaving Windows running) and go to Parallel's menu bar and select the option "Install Parallels Tools". Doing this causes XP to install some new drivers for better integration with the Mac. MacAddict didn't know what all it added, but I noticed right away that after doing this XP's screen resolution automatically changed based in weither it was windowed or in full-screen mode.
I need to track down my OS/2 or eComStation CDs, they got packed away when I gave lincoln my old PC. Hopefully I can find my eCS registration keys as well.
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Post #257,942
6/6/06 11:15:52 PM
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Very
I' ve got 2 VMs with parallels: windows 2000 and ubuntu 6.06. Very impressed so far.
There's info in the read me about the parallels tools - they are necessary for a windows VM, imo.
I'll post some screenies later.
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Post #257,954
6/7/06 3:43:47 AM
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*envy* (new thread)
Created as new thread #257953 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=257953|*envy*]
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Post #258,251
6/8/06 8:02:59 PM
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It's purchased
I also found my eCS 1.1 disks(OS/2) and was able to get it installed once I told it to use IBM's IDE driver instead of the DANI driver.
Found a glitch with the mouse pointer emulation. Galactic Civilizations changes the mouse to colored pointers and they get scrambled. If I drop down to 256 colors they look OK, but it's not worth doing that. I can recreate the scrambled mouse pointer problem by changing the system pointer to one of the colored sets.
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Post #251,223
4/6/06 3:34:27 PM
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Seems that it works for Linux too
[link|http://theweeklyrant.com/article/8/news-apple-bootcamp-boots-linux|http://theweeklyrant...tcamp-boots-linux]
Full props go out to torifile from applenova.com who has just confirmed that Apple\ufffd\ufffd\ufffds BootCamp does indeed support Linux!
All that EFI work can take a back seat. Here\ufffd\ufffd\ufffds Ubuntu 5.10 booting and begining to install:
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with screenshots and stuff.
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Post #251,242
4/6/06 6:31:33 PM
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Auuugh! SmartQuotes!
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Post #251,278
4/7/06 12:38:50 AM
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If ever there was a misnomer - StupidQuotes i say
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Post #251,251
4/6/06 8:49:37 PM
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That part doesn't surprise me.
An alternate system is just that. You should be able to have another Mac system, for that matter.
But, when in Mac mode, is the XP file system visible, even R/O? Linux has perhaps too many variations to be easily handled.
Alex
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Post #251,281
4/7/06 2:20:45 AM
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Windows: The New Classic
[link|http://daringfireball.net/2006/04/windows_the_new_classic|Daring Fireball] has the story.
Have fun,
Carl Forde
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Post #251,296
4/7/06 4:21:25 AM
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Love. It.
Doze.. as the old '53 Plymouth (your uncle gave you.)
Doze... your Legacy CP/M-ripoff on 5" floppies, with bolt-on 16-bitness - which you run long enough to get a few files over to the Modrin visage of your sleek new, rounded, Quality box.. until you can deliver the message to CP/M: Sorry old-timer, but it's 'ought-Six and you've been Outsourced.
[Alas, neighbor's new Powerbook is PowerPC :-/ else that new-hP could be on eBay before you can say Boot Camp in Swahili.]
But Then.. if I have this right: seems to me that, when attention finally turns to crafting nasties for *nix-like OSs / to expand all those keylogger profits - just mayhap the non-Intellish PowerPC guts shall not merit nearly so much $Attention from the MBA-savvy slimes (??) I'm presuming that a decent wealth-creating root kit du jour.. needs some assembly language goodness, as the competition gets tougher. But what do I know about porting.
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Post #251,304
4/7/06 7:37:10 AM
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Nice link. Thanks.
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