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Post #247,202 by ben_tilly 3/8/06 11:28:40 AM Reply	Be interested to hear about the fallout I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #247,264 by broomberg 3/8/06 6:41:57 PM Reply	Spoke to him He left a message on my phone at 2:30. Was vaguely apologetic. I was away from my office, I did a quick touch base at 5PM, and will contact him Friday morning for a recap. I assume he went to his boss for direction, his boss said make nice with me and figure out my issues. Now that it is on the table this way, I'd expect there to be either some serious scope rephrasing or schedule expansion. I simply will not allow it to go any other way, and HIS boss needs this to work. She is quite aware on a failure I'd interviewed by the company president, and with this email as part of the paper trail there is no way anyone can escape unscathed.
Post #247,283 by ben_tilly 3/8/06 9:06:44 PM Reply	Cool beans It sounds like you're going to have to spend some time training an idiot how to not screw up. But after that your company will have a better-trained idiot, which is always an improvement. (I didn't say worthwhile, just improvement.) Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

Memo to Pointy Haired Project manager, CCed his boss. - (broomberg) - (12) - March 7, 2006, 08:59:14 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (drewk) - March 7, 2006, 09:25:29 PM EST

They don't shoot messengers, do they? :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - March 7, 2006, 10:57:34 PM EST

You have a way of calling incompetence what it is :-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - March 7, 2006, 10:59:17 PM EST

Is this an inexperienced PM? - (Steve Lowe) - (8) - March 8, 2006, 12:08:53 AM EST

Pretty much a bit of both - (broomberg) - (7) - March 8, 2006, 06:39:04 AM EST

Ouch - (Steve Lowe) - (3) - March 8, 2006, 11:21:14 AM EST

Unfortunately you're only sort-of right re: flexibility - (drewk) - (2) - March 8, 2006, 07:29:01 PM EST

Actually IT does work that way. To some extent. - (ben_tilly) - (1) - March 8, 2006, 09:04:45 PM EST

Which works out, in practice, to what I said the first time -NT - (drewk) - March 8, 2006, 09:08:16 PM EST

Be interested to hear about the fallout -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2) - March 8, 2006, 11:28:40 AM EST

Spoke to him - (broomberg) - (1) - March 8, 2006, 06:41:57 PM EST

Cool beans - (ben_tilly) - March 8, 2006, 09:06:44 PM EST

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