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New I still say the model has changed.
We used to vote for Presidents because they represented us. We LIKED them because "were on of us."

That has changed. I didn't like Clinton because he represented me. (I didn't hate him either). But he royally PISSED off the other side (which I disliked).

Likewise I suspect that most people don't give a damn for/against George Bush. But they recognize he PISSES off the other side and they DON'T LIKE THEM.

And I still say that if this has happened (and continues) there is a VERY good chance that Hillary could win the Presidency.
New It's possible. Depends on the Repub candidate though.
This reminds me of a [link|http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/03/nyregion/03challenger.html?ei=5094&en=9b20ef7d01deff2b&hp=&ex=1141448400&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print|NY Times] story today:

While Mrs. Clinton already has $17 million to spend on the race, Ms. McFarland has raised about $600,000 for her Congressional bid, though she and her husband, Alan, an investment banker, are wealthy. Mr. Rollins said she would be more successful than Ms. Pirro with Republican donors nationwide because of her history with President Reagan and her work on military issues, such as being an author of his famous "Star Wars" speech.

"She has the stature and gravitas that Republicans will embrace," Mr. Rollins said. "The former mayor of Yonkers is not necessarily going to be viewed as an impressive candidate by major figures in the party."

Mr. Spencer, who has been running since last spring, dismissed Ms. McFarland in an interview as "a liberal Manhattan Republican elitist" and said she was too late because he had won support from Republicans and the Conservative Party's executive committee. The full Conservative Party will pick its candidate in May; every Republican who has won statewide since 1974 has had its endorsement.

Under Mr. Spencer, crime rates and local taxes fell in Yonkers, and new schools and waterfront projects were built. Yet he had controversy: As mayor, while married, he fathered two children with his chief of staff. After years of questions, he publicly acknowledged the relationship, divorced his wife and married his former aide.

For Stephen J. Minarik III, the state Republican chairman who recruited Ms. Pirro and is now helping Mr. Spencer, it has been a long year of strategizing that he would like to conclude without a Republican primary battle. He said the door was not closed on Ms. McFarland \ufffd who just met yesterday with Joseph L. Bruno, the Senate majority leader \ufffd but it was very late to start a candidacy.

"We really have to turn our sights onto Hillary Clinton," Mr. Minarik said, "and stop her before she can run for president."


Oooh. A speechwriter with "gravitas". :-/

It sounds like a rerun of the [link|http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/08/senate.illinois.keyes/index.html|Obama vs. Keyes] race. And we know how that turned out. It's "nice" to see that the Republicans seem to think that all women and minorities are interchangable to their voters.

As things stand now, Clinton should win her Senate race very easily. She'll be in a very good position to run in 2008 for President, if she chooses to do so.

Cheers,
Scott.
Expand Edited by Another Scott March 3, 2006, 10:10:48 AM EST
New No senator is ever in a "good position" for that race.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Another way of saying
My enemys enemy is my friend? I suppose it's possible, but I still think that people vote against somebody rather than for somebody else. Hillary vs. DeLay would be a toughie for me as I think they're both terrible. It's hard to guess who's worse. I don't really care who else they're pissing off. Hillary vs. McCain would be easier; I only dislike McCain and still think Hillary is despicable. I don't think I've ever voted for a politician. That's sad.
New That IS sad
I guess you're too young to have voted for [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bayard_Anderson|John Anderson] in 1980. He is the reason I'm still a registered Republican(Gasp!)
jb4
"Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'."
&mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
New Not too young.
In that time period, I was too disgusted with national politics to get involved in primary elections. I considered that the party fat cats would get who they wanted whether I put my time in or not. I read up on the selected miscreants, held my nose, and voted for the (hopefully) least vile. Sometimes I voted wrong in retrospect, but my selection usually does not get voted in. My current feeling is that voting is probably a waste of time, but by now it is a hard habit to break. And it's not that much time, and if I vote, I am entitled to bitch later. Not that it does any good.
     Video of Bush briefing before Katrina hit. - (Another Scott) - (37)
         More Lies, More Videotape - (jb4) - (1)
             Not Midterms, Finals. -NT - (jbrabeck)
         Heard on NPR today - (drewk)
         As more evidence of innate dumbth trickles in - it endears - (Ashton) - (33)
             Remember 1973-1974? - (Another Scott) - (32)
                 I still say the model has changed. - (Simon_Jester) - (5)
                     It's possible. Depends on the Repub candidate though. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         No senator is ever in a "good position" for that race. -NT - (admin)
                     Another way of saying - (hnick) - (2)
                         That IS sad - (jb4) - (1)
                             Not too young. - (hnick)
                 One small point of clarification: - (jb4) - (9)
                     It's around $2.35/gal for regular, $2.70/gal diesel here. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                         My heart bleeds - (pwhysall) - (2)
                             $5.92/gallon. Not bad. :-/ -NT - (Another Scott)
                             YMMV -NT - (jb4)
                     My gas prices are down somewhat - (ben_tilly)
                     I'm paying $1.99, significantly lower than post Katrina. - (bepatient) - (3)
                         OK, so riddle me this, Batman... - (jb4) - (1)
                             It also depends - (bepatient)
                         Prices jumped up this past weekend for me - (lincoln)
                 Re: Remember 1973-1974? - (JayMehaffey) - (15)
                     Vast oversimplification - (bepatient) - (9)
                         Quite right about that. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                             Aside from the fact... - (bepatient)
                         From my point of view - (ben_tilly)
                         Bull.... - (Simon_Jester) - (5)
                             Sigh - (bepatient) - (4)
                                 Well, on one issue we agree.... - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                                     You keep missing the point - (bepatient) - (2)
                                         Again, we disagree on this point... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                             The veep speaks quite a bit - (bepatient)
                     Reminds me of a commentary by Glenn Greenwald - (Another Scott) - (4)
                         That FreeRepublic link is great - (drewk)
                         Which is to say, yet again - - (Ashton)
                         Given that definition of "liberal"... - (jb4)
                         Brilliant article - (JayMehaffey)

Religion.
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