Will Apple adopt Windows?

Post #245,064 by admin 2/16/06 10:34:42 PM Reply	Will Apple adopt Windows? [link\|http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1923151,00.asp\|http://www.pcmag.com...95,1923151,00.asp] Epstein made four observations. The first was that the Apple Switch ad campaign was over, and nobody switched. The second was that the iPod lost its FireWire connector because the PC world was the new target audience. Also, although the iPod was designed to get people to move to the Mac, this didn't happen. And, of course, that Apple had switched to the Intel microprocessor. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #245,072 by pwhysall 2/17/06 1:36:05 AM 2/17/06 1:37:34 AM Reply	Two things I tell you about John C. Dvorak 1. He's a twat 2. He's a metronomically regularly wrong twat. See [link\|http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/16/1826257\|http://apple.slashdo...=06/02/16/1826257] for more details. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! Edited by pwhysall Feb. 17, 2006, 01:37:34 AM EST Expand All History
Post #245,090 by admin 2/17/06 8:53:25 AM Reply	Agreed. I was amused more than anything. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #245,075 by cforde 2/17/06 2:18:03 AM Reply	observe that he is irrelevent 'cause he is clueless Have fun, Carl Forde
Post #245,091 by folkert 2/17/06 8:54:48 AM Reply	Only if... Microsoft adopts OS-X from Apple and calls it WindowsOSEX. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #245,093 by Another Scott 2/17/06 9:28:00 AM Reply	It does seem very stupid now, but who knows the future. According to [link\|http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060126.html\|Cringely], a couple of years ago Jobs had a form of pancreatic cancer that only has a 50% survival rate at 5 years. He'll also be very tied up with Disney now. When Jobs was gone from Apple, very different things happened. I think Dvorak's wrong (nice /. link, Peter). I think that Cringely's closer to being right in saying that Jobs is winning the battle with Gates. (The final battle, of course, may have a different victor.) But if some bean counter takes over from Jobs, well, there's no telling what could happen to the Mac and Mac OS X. Cheers, Scott.
Post #245,216 by ben_tilly 2/17/06 7:46:56 PM Reply	I'd double check that assertion Jobs had pancreatic cancer. True. Pancreatic cancer generally has a very low survival rate. True. According to [link\|http://www.thinksecret.com/news/jobsmemo.html\|http://www.thinksecr...ews/jobsmemo.html], Jobs had a [link\|http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/neuroendocrine_tumors.jsp\|Neuroendocrine tumor]. Removed early, as his was, the 5 year survival rate is 94%. While the incident was certainly a wakeup call, he's not likely to be at death's door. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #245,173 by tuberculosis 2/17/06 3:30:47 PM Reply	FWIW, Dvorak has predicted the Intel move annually for something like 10 years. Perhaps proving that a stopped clock is still right twice a day. However, I've been making the opposite argument to folks in the MS camp (I meet them everywhere these days). I tell them: Basically you have the only non-unix compatible OS left on the market with any kind of adoption rate. It has a shitty command line shell, and is gratuitously incompatible with most of the open source software out there. And what does it get you? Where is your advantage? You blow a huge chunk of your R&D budget every year competing with Linux - a server OS that is kicking your ass on all the plumbing. "If you had any sense at all, you'd follow the Apple model of adopting an open source OS core, maybe maintain your own kernel borrow everything else with a BSD license ala Darwin and reimplement the windows experience on top of that. You'd solve most of your security problems, be able to repurpose a bunch of high dollar resources, get a bunch of free software supported on your platform, and if you did a good job at giving back to the communities (like the safari team does for konqueror) people would stop thinking you were fascist dick heads." They always look at me like I'm crazy. Whatever. Let 'em live on their treadmill. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #245,175 by drewk 2/17/06 3:40:39 PM Reply	That look doesn't mean they think you're crazy It means, "They think we're what?" === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #245,304 by hnick 2/18/06 9:46:37 AM Reply	You've missed the M$ point All that free stuff is stuff that M$ wants to sell to a captive audience for big bucks. "Free" is not a word you want to use loosely around the M$ campus. Why do the lemmings still buy M$? 'Cause they always have and everyone knows how it works, and while it isn't that good, it puts bright and shiny over the warts. Vista may turn this around though. It's REALLY bad.
Post #245,376 by pwhysall 2/19/06 3:21:31 AM Reply	I see you've had a go with Beta 2, too. It's cack, innit? Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #245,382 by hnick 2/19/06 9:20:00 AM Reply	build 5308 It appears that the design goals have changed. In the past, it seemed that the goal was to reduce the users to a quiet weeping. They have apparently escalated the goals to accomplish shrieking, hair pulling, and blaspheming in unknown languages before being reduced to weeping. On the positive side, it used to be that I actually had to accomplish my design goals to feel accomplishment. Now, if I get the silly box of switches to do ANYTHING it feels like a major accomplishment.

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