So are you officially changing your point now?

Post #240,936 by bepatient 1/10/06 8:42:31 PM Reply	So are you officially changing your point now? Regulation forced service into some markets. Markets that don't necessarily deserve service because it can't be made profitable. I grew up flying to Europe from Wood County Regional in WV. The next nearest airport with any service at all was Charleston WV...and the nearest B was Cleveland or Columbus. In the "regulated" days, there was one airline that serviced the airport. After deregulation, there was one airline that serviced that airport. 30 years later there's one airport that services that airport. Not much difference for WV. I would imagine it wasn't much different for Fort Wayne except for that brief stint of having a couple of options available. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #240,938 by boxley 1/10/06 9:33:53 PM Reply	he officially changed his point by not offering $39 beep tickets on the peoples airplane :-) all you hear in that subthread is crickets thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #240,999 by mmoffitt 1/11/06 12:23:32 PM Reply	:0) I only take Foster's Lager in payment. But with AVgas just now returning down to around $3.30/gallon, my nose gear problem, my annual, etc. I don't know if I can afford to fly it anymore. (But, of course, I will). :0) bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #241,004 by drewk 1/11/06 12:36:39 PM Reply	AvGas is cheaper In fact, next time you want to complain about the oil companies screwing us with the prices they charge, consider that gas (even AvGas) is cheaper than: [link\|http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?id=842\|beer], [link\|http://www.ams.usda.gov/dyfmos/mib/rtl_mon_whl_05.pdf\|milk], [link\|http://www.bizrate.com/buy/products__cat_id--16030500,keyword--Olive%20Oil.html\|olive oil], [link\|http://www.shoplocal.com/ohio/default.aspx?action=searchbroadreach&ID=533436&adref=kr_ghp&r=632725761039023184949111782&WT.srch=1&ef_id=1053%3a3%3a2a80bb6937e904c75e3fa4414d7dd8f9%3apvjqBENIYXsAAEnRVd8AAAAP%3a20060111093503&Ntk=ALL&Ntt=corn%20oil&Nty=1&D=corn%20oil&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&N=0&searchwithin=\|corn oil] ... === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #241,006 by mmoffitt 1/11/06 12:39:04 PM Reply	Show me the brewery, dairy, olive oil or corn oil company that made $10 Billion in Profit in three months. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #241,009 by drewk 1/11/06 1:00:03 PM Reply	There's this saying I like Get people asking the wrong question, and it doesn't really matter what the answer is. Do you agree that we heavily subsidize the oil and autombile industries? I'm talking about highway funding, international adventures, all the real costs of keeping oil cheap. This allows people to live a lifestyle that doesn't make sense, and that they wouldn't do if directly exposed to the real cost of that lifestyle. It won't stop until we have about $3-$4 per gallon of taxes on gas. Go ahead. Run for office on that platform. When you can get people to vote for you, I'll listen to your argument that it's the oil industry's fault for gouging us. If you set out to sea in a boat with a gaping hole in the hull, does it make sense to blame the guy charging you $100 for a spot on the life boat? === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #241,018 by mmoffitt 1/11/06 3:26:45 PM Reply	Let me see if I'm hearing you right. "We deserve to be screwed because we're stupid enough to still be driving automobiles." Okay, I'll buy that. ;0) bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #241,026 by drewk 1/11/06 3:41:12 PM Reply	More like we're screwing ourselves, but close enough Given the choice, I take a train or bus. Where I live, that's not practical. And yes, I consider transportation when considering job offers. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #241,071 by Silverlock 1/11/06 9:45:29 PM Reply	I do my part. I don't even own a car. If I ever buy another car it'll be a hybrid. Or a 67 Mustang. Convertible. ----------------------------------------- If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons. -James Thurber
Post #241,079 by Ashton 1/11/06 10:29:16 PM Reply	.oO0 Brevity Award 0Oo. ___with 3 K-Y packets. Rarely have I seen it expressed so succinctly :-) It ain't the "cost of living" that is burdensome in '05 Murica; it's the limitless price of lifestyles - imagined to signify one's fashion-sense of Success? ... AKA Affluenza\ufffd It's all in our Minds. (Or in the Joneses'..)
Post #241,005 by mmoffitt 1/11/06 12:37:04 PM 1/11/06 12:41:23 PM Reply	FWA's available destinations and carriers have been hit. And hit hard since deregulation. I wasn't here before deregulation, but I know a ton of folks who were and FWA had a lot more carriers and a lot more flights back in the bad old days of regulation. Deregulation was a bad idea or, at the very least, was poorly executed. Tune into some of the App/Dep control towers. They're busy - too busy - for a couple of hours in the morning and then dead silence until approach gets busy - too busy - for the arrivals for a couple of hours. Even Dallas has long periods of dead silence. Why? Because schedules are no longer regulated and everyone wants to fly and arrive at the same time. You don't get to pick when the buses run, so why expect to pick when the aircraft (commercial mind) fly? It's idiotic. And no, I'm not changing my tune. The fact is that there are far fewer major carriers today than there were in the days of regulation. I think that's beyond dispute. Now, you can argue (and I'm not deaf to the argument) that there never should have been as many major carriers as there once was - but that's a different argument entirely. You simply cannot compare what Pan Am was to ATA or any other low-end short hop carrier. Deregulation caused the collapse of many major carriers and left an industry in tatters. And not just the airlines. Lockhead Martin, Boeing and the now defunct McDonnell Douglas were all severely impacted. Fewer majors == fewer airliner orders == fewer commercial aircraft builders == fewer employed people == ... etc. It was a bad deal all the way around. So now we fly aircraft only a bean counter could love and many of them are sitting idle in the desert. It's spam in a 35 year old can these days, just the way the bean counters like it. [Edit: tpyo] bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell Edited by mmoffitt Jan. 11, 2006, 12:41:23 PM EST Expand All History

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