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Post #240,919 by mmoffitt 1/10/06 4:39:02 PM 1/10/06 4:39:57 PM Reply	WHAT? First class is now $50 more than coach. For example... ORD-LAX Roundtrip. Depart 2/18/2006 Return 2/25/2006 Departing flight: American Airlines Flight 313 Coach: $231 First Class: $1,423.59 That's a little more than $50 bucks. You're got a set on you telling anyone they don't know what they're talking about wrt flying. [Edit} Added "Departing" to Flight number so you can look it up. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell Edited by mmoffitt Jan. 10, 2006, 04:39:57 PM EST WHAT? First class is now $50 more than coach. For example... ORD-LAX Roundtrip. Depart 2/18/2006 Return 2/25/2006 American Airlines Flight 313 Coach: $231 First Class: $1,423.59 That's a little more than $50 bucks. You're got a set on you telling anyone they don't know what they're talking about wrt flying. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell Collapse All History
Post #240,921 by Another Scott 1/10/06 4:45:49 PM Reply	I suspect it's something like this. Business X buys ticket for Joe Manager to travel. 2 day advance purchase. Ticket is $600 round trip. Upgrade to first class is $50. Just a guess though. Cheers, Scott.
Post #240,922 by bepatient 1/10/06 4:51:04 PM Reply	You may want to check with a real person because you are comparing restricted coach to first class, not unrestricted coach. It goes back to what you EXPECT to pay being lower than what the airline should be charging you (should they have management that could manage their way out of a wet paper sack). Check DL fare announcement from last year regarding their "simplifares" initiative..and how that was worked before you try and throw this one back at me. Its my job to know this. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #240,924 by bepatient 1/10/06 6:20:57 PM Reply	Mea Culpa The Delta announcements had 1st class at $100 more capped than the unrestricted coach. It was Continental that had it at 50 each way, or 100 on the round trip in markets where they compete head to head with DL. Must stress, though, that we are talking Y versus F fares and not Q fare levels and below. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #240,925 by mmoffitt 1/10/06 7:28:40 PM Reply	I am talking fares The People pay. Not the vaunted Bizness Class. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #240,933 by ben_tilly 1/10/06 8:24:11 PM Reply	But business class pays for the people Or would if the airlines got their accounting right. The problem that they have is simple. Different passengers can afford different amounts. Most passengers cannot (or will not, same difference) afford their true per seat cost. A small minority (business and first class) can afford far more than that. And the cost of operating a plane tends to have a large fixed cost (things like fuel and depreciation for the plane) and small variable costs per passenger (extra fuel for the extra weight, salary for service people). So airlines do their best to force those who can pay to pay more, hoping to recoup most of their fixed costs there. Then, once the airplane is going anyways, they fill the remainder of the seats at closer to their variable cost. So if you get a $65 fare and someone else gets a $1000 fare, the truth is that that other person actually paid most of the real cost of flying you (and several others besides). Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #240,935 by bepatient 1/10/06 8:35:14 PM Reply	Business Class is C or J or D or Z Coach is Y or B First is F Restricted Coach is K, H, M, Q, V, R yadda Each one of these can have several subclassifications depending on rules and restrictions. Don't think I was kidding when I said there are 100 different fares available on a hundred seat flight, I wasn't. Besides, there's no business class to Fort Wayne. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #241,000 by mmoffitt 1/11/06 12:25:01 PM Reply	There's no "class" at all in Fort Wayne. ;0) bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell

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