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New forced equity distribution is stealing ya should know better
either revolution or taxation does that. In the taxation model the money doesnt get into your pocket. The government model just puts off the day of the revolution. If you want more money you have to be in a position to demand it. If you are not in that position, then you are attempting to rely on charity and the goodness of your fellow man's heart. Good luck with that one
thanx,
Bill
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
New And if we are to escape the bonds of our past...
...we must find a way to escape the patterns of our past.

Box, I respect you for being true to who you are. You are very honest about the way our species has been from the beginning of time, and you don't see the hope for our species to ever change - and so you continue to act as if we never will.

I think that if we are to change as a species, to move beyond petty struggles towards true cooperation, that some of us have to take a stand. I do believe that if enough people were willing to make a stand, to say that this is not the way things are going to be any more, that we could change the way the entire world works. I used to believe that it wouldn't happen in my lifetime because it would take too long for us to change; now I believe that if it doesn't happen in my lifetime it will be because my lifetime will be cut short by some stupid mistake made by the missing link between apes and civilized beings.

We are too close to creating the Children of Humanity; they will learn the lessons that we teach them in our own actions. How we will be treated by them depends on how we treat each other.
When somebody asks you to trade your freedom for security, it isn't your security they're talking about.
New I know you have some training
and spent some time in Nippon (think so anyway if Im confused sorry) the next time you are at work look clearly at your co-workers as beings, what are they thinking doing acting then consult your chi. Do people change? I too was once a believer in people then I realized they are part of the problem, not the solution. All one can do is be true to your own nature, given the recent hardship you have experienced it is hard, all you can acheive is to be yourself, and let the rest of humanity deal with you as opposed with you attempting to react to humanity.
thanx,
bill
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
New Bwah?
My training and my time in Nippon had nothing to do with each other. ^_^ I do look at other people, and I do see that mostly we are still 99% animal and 1% aware. I realize that I am probably not a whole lot better than the average.

You ride the waves, I stand against them. That IS who I am; and yes, it is hard. For me, without the challenge I would have no reason to live.

David Gerrold has this great part in one of his books about how to really screw up a fish: you grab the fish by the tail, haul it out of the water, and hold it just above the surface until it realizes it's been swimming in water all along. Whatever you do, though, don't put that fish back in a tank with fish that haven't had the same experience - all the other fish will ostracize it. "Oh, poor Frank, he's never been the same since that day - always babbling on about this 'water' thing he says we're all in."

So we have a choice, pretend nothing changed, or act with our new understanding. I choose to act.
When somebody asks you to trade your freedom for security, it isn't your security they're talking about.
New {chortle}
Welcome aboard, Grasshopper -

I've always thought that, the ontological proof of Cosmic Humor.. has to be:

(If ever you manage to uncover a tiny bit of the Good Stuff ...) you can't even give it away!

Something them Evangels n'such can never quite grok, at even kiddiegarten level. Perhaps fortunately for all, in every Age.





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     Inflation at 16.7%? - (inthane-chan) - (120)
         Not inflation - (bepatient)
         yeah, dont buy gold when its high and distrust - (boxley) - (118)
             Figured it was something like that. - (inthane-chan) - (117)
                 economics is reasonably simple - (boxley) - (116)
                     Yep - Repos in power, Economy down, Dems in - E up - (tuberculosis) - (115)
                         old sayin g repos depression demos war - (boxley)
                         Thats pretty funny - (bepatient) - (113)
                             Oh yeah. The economy has 'recovered' - (imric)
                             The numbers support it - (ben_tilly)
                             You mean these numbers? - (tuberculosis) - (110)
                                 Bah. Who needs facts when you have dogma? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                     My karma ran over his dogma -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                 First of all, the stock market is not the economy - (bepatient) - (107)
                                     You'll have to do better - (tuberculosis) - (21)
                                         Tom Toles: 12/25/2005. 39 kB .img - (Another Scott)
                                         Your first link - (bepatient) - (19)
                                             One indicator supports it - (ben_tilly) - (17)
                                                 Dont know too much about that but this year was the - (boxley)
                                                 And this is due to a late - (bepatient) - (15)
                                                     Re: And this is due to ---- projections R'us? - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                         And your anectodal - (bepatient)
                                                     Those indicators indicate a likely net loss of disposable $$ - (tuberculosis) - (12)
                                                         ???? - (bepatient) - (10)
                                                             Not just IT - (imric) - (5)
                                                                 I think it's going to go something like this... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                     Another Scott for President! - (imqwerky)
                                                                 Microelectronics???? - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                     "NEVER"? - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                         Never is what adults say - (bepatient)
                                                             Then I can't afford the job I have - (tuberculosis)
                                                             Actually our whole economy is under threat - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                                 I absolutely agree - (bepatient)
                                                                 Well said. - (a6l6e6x)
                                                         dittos on the fixed mortgage, you greedy on housing - (boxley)
                                             we all know capitalism is selling surplus - (boxley)
                                     And the PEOPLE, Bill? - (imric) - (84)
                                         You keep railing on this - (bepatient) - (83)
                                             How people feel is the only worthwhile indicator - (tuberculosis) - (71)
                                                 Ed Zachary. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                     I can't be quiet any longer - (imqwerky) - (1)
                                                         Salaries of 60-100K are excellent money. - (mmoffitt)
                                                 I have money to blow on cool shit and trips or I don't. - (boxley) - (67)
                                                     But it's not just "his" field, man. - (mmoffitt) - (66)
                                                         Very funny - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                             Funny numbers - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                                                 And in the same amount of time - (bepatient)
                                                         at $60 a barrel the oil sector looks promising - (boxley) - (62)
                                                             Sometimes choices are limited. - (Another Scott)
                                                             Yeea, it was move and work or stay and wait for bank repo - (tuberculosis) - (60)
                                                                 So? I have done that 3 times in 5 years - (boxley) - (59)
                                                                     And there should be something in between. - (inthane-chan) - (5)
                                                                         forced equity distribution is stealing ya should know better - (boxley) - (4)
                                                                             And if we are to escape the bonds of our past... - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                                                                                 I know you have some training - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                                     Bwah? - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                                                                         {chortle} - (Ashton)
                                                                     Me too - sick of being migrant worker - (tuberculosis) - (52)
                                                                         you are trying to fix yesterdays problem - (boxley) - (51)
                                                                             Deregulation fsked Delta Pilots. Not their union. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (50)
                                                                                 Keep telling yourself that. - (bepatient) - (49)
                                                                                     Right. - (mmoffitt) - (48)
                                                                                         I might be missing something - (drewk)
                                                                                         Less competition? - (ben_tilly) - (38)
                                                                                             Really? - (mmoffitt) - (37)
                                                                                                 There have been some casualties but... - (ben_tilly)
                                                                                                 In their place is - (bepatient) - (35)
                                                                                                     Independence and ATA? You're kidding, right? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (34)
                                                                                                         Why would i be kidding? - (bepatient) - (33)
                                                                                                             Don't forget crappy service. - (Another Scott) - (18)
                                                                                                                 Those things exist - (bepatient) - (13)
                                                                                                                     You missed my point. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                                                                         I more "bypassed" it that missed it. - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                                                                             My TDI wagon gets 50-51 mpg highway. $25-$30 each way. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                                                                                 Would I complain of seat pitch... - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                                                                                     Yeah, the backseat is tight. - (Another Scott)
                                                                                                                     WHAT? - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                                                                                                         I suspect it's something like this. - (Another Scott)
                                                                                                                         You may want to check with a real person - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                                                                             Mea Culpa - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                                                                                 I am talking fares The People pay. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                                                                                                     But business class pays for the people - (ben_tilly)
                                                                                                                                     Business Class is C or J or D or Z - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                                                                                         There's no "class" at all in Fort Wayne. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                                                 Driving > Flying - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                                                                                     Got iPod? -NT - (admin) - (2)
                                                                                                                         Ar, and an iTrip. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                                                                             ++fsckinga -NT - (inthane-chan)
                                                                                                             ATA's bankrupt, for instance. - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                                                                                                                 So? - (bepatient) - (12)
                                                                                                                     Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (11)
                                                                                                                         So are you officially changing your point now? - (bepatient) - (10)
                                                                                                                             he officially changed his point by not offering $39 - (boxley) - (8)
                                                                                                                                 :0) - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                                                                                                                     AvGas is cheaper - (drewk) - (6)
                                                                                                                                         Show me the brewery, dairy, olive oil or corn oil company - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                                                                                                                             There's this saying I like - (drewk) - (4)
                                                                                                                                                 Let me see if I'm hearing you right. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                                                                                                     More like we're screwing ourselves, but close enough - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                                                                                                         I do my part. I don't even own a car. - (Silverlock)
                                                                                                                                                 .oO0 Brevity Award 0Oo. ___with 3 K-Y packets. - (Ashton)
                                                                                                                             FWA's available destinations and carriers have been hit. - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                         You are so wrong here I don't know how to respond - (bepatient) - (7)
                                                                                             easy response, the next bash Mikey is the taxi driver - (boxley) - (6)
                                                                                                 Make sure.. - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                                                     OTOH - (imric) - (4)
                                                                                                         Thats true, BUT - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                                                             Don't give up your day job.... :-) -NT - (jbrabeck)
                                                                                                             OK.. That___earns you a challenge - - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                                                                 ICpartialLRPD - (drewk)
                                             Which kind of average? - (ben_tilly)
                                             I know that one buddy has been looking constantly - (imric) - (2)
                                                 *grin* OT - (imric)
                                                 Lots of us moved against our wishes -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                             Ah, the Logical Positivism of Econ catechism. - (Ashton) - (6)
                                                 Nicely confused - (bepatient)
                                                 its not like its a new concept, read yer history - (boxley) - (4)
                                                     That was then. - (Ashton) - (3)
                                                         that is now, people dont change - (boxley) - (2)
                                                             No, that is not 'people' - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                 my kids are all feral, good trainer, not :-( -NT - (boxley)

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