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are the cost of housing and energy in those "inflation" numbers you toss out?

'cause if you measure income vs median home price, you'll see that the average joe is more proper fucked every year.

Of course, if you measure income vs available computing power, things look pretty good, but I spend most money on house and energy and those costs are way fuckin out of hand.

We. Are. Not. Gaining. Ground.

While you're measuring prosperity, try a graph of minimum wage or average vs median home price over the past 50 years. This is why people feel like the economy sucks. Because while it looks dandy for corporations with falling labor costs and rising profits, the profits are not making it to the employees.

The "people's" economy continues to suck. [link|http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=us/2-0&fp=43b88ad53e5ab286&ei=AW64Q7eiCs2MFsev9aoE&url=http%3A//www.wvnstv.com/story.cfm%3Ffunc%3Dviewstory%26storyid%3D7688&cid=1103248252|How] [link|http://www.thedailynews.cc/articles/2005/12/31/news/news02.txt|can] [link|http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=66052&version=1&template_id=48&parent_id=28|I] [link|http://news.google.com/news?q=layoffs|tell]?




"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush
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it took you to google "layoffs", I found 3 company's with a combined job opening slate to hire all the Electrolux folks. Lockheed Martin, Comcast, and Amex all have 400+ openings that span from Admin Asst to Vice President level.

Jobs are there.

Theres a reason I have a 2 hour commute and made telecommuting part of my hiring package. Because I was NOT going to accept a position in the NY area that required me to live there.

I can't afford it.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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     Inflation at 16.7%? - (inthane-chan) - (120)
         Not inflation - (bepatient)
         yeah, dont buy gold when its high and distrust - (boxley) - (118)
             Figured it was something like that. - (inthane-chan) - (117)
                 economics is reasonably simple - (boxley) - (116)
                     Yep - Repos in power, Economy down, Dems in - E up - (tuberculosis) - (115)
                         old sayin g repos depression demos war - (boxley)
                         Thats pretty funny - (bepatient) - (113)
                             Oh yeah. The economy has 'recovered' - (imric)
                             The numbers support it - (ben_tilly)
                             You mean these numbers? - (tuberculosis) - (110)
                                 Bah. Who needs facts when you have dogma? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                     My karma ran over his dogma -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                 First of all, the stock market is not the economy - (bepatient) - (107)
                                     You'll have to do better - (tuberculosis) - (21)
                                         Tom Toles: 12/25/2005. 39 kB .img - (Another Scott)
                                         Your first link - (bepatient) - (19)
                                             One indicator supports it - (ben_tilly) - (17)
                                                 Dont know too much about that but this year was the - (boxley)
                                                 And this is due to a late - (bepatient) - (15)
                                                     Re: And this is due to ---- projections R'us? - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                         And your anectodal - (bepatient)
                                                     Those indicators indicate a likely net loss of disposable $$ - (tuberculosis) - (12)
                                                         ???? - (bepatient) - (10)
                                                             Not just IT - (imric) - (5)
                                                                 I think it's going to go something like this... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                     Another Scott for President! - (imqwerky)
                                                                 Microelectronics???? - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                     "NEVER"? - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                         Never is what adults say - (bepatient)
                                                             Then I can't afford the job I have - (tuberculosis)
                                                             Actually our whole economy is under threat - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                                 I absolutely agree - (bepatient)
                                                                 Well said. - (a6l6e6x)
                                                         dittos on the fixed mortgage, you greedy on housing - (boxley)
                                             we all know capitalism is selling surplus - (boxley)
                                     And the PEOPLE, Bill? - (imric) - (84)
                                         You keep railing on this - (bepatient) - (83)
                                             How people feel is the only worthwhile indicator - (tuberculosis) - (71)
                                                 Ed Zachary. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                     I can't be quiet any longer - (imqwerky) - (1)
                                                         Salaries of 60-100K are excellent money. - (mmoffitt)
                                                 I have money to blow on cool shit and trips or I don't. - (boxley) - (67)
                                                     But it's not just "his" field, man. - (mmoffitt) - (66)
                                                         Very funny - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                             Funny numbers - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                                                 And in the same amount of time - (bepatient)
                                                         at $60 a barrel the oil sector looks promising - (boxley) - (62)
                                                             Sometimes choices are limited. - (Another Scott)
                                                             Yeea, it was move and work or stay and wait for bank repo - (tuberculosis) - (60)
                                                                 So? I have done that 3 times in 5 years - (boxley) - (59)
                                                                     And there should be something in between. - (inthane-chan) - (5)
                                                                         forced equity distribution is stealing ya should know better - (boxley) - (4)
                                                                             And if we are to escape the bonds of our past... - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                                                                                 I know you have some training - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                                     Bwah? - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                                                                         {chortle} - (Ashton)
                                                                     Me too - sick of being migrant worker - (tuberculosis) - (52)
                                                                         you are trying to fix yesterdays problem - (boxley) - (51)
                                                                             Deregulation fsked Delta Pilots. Not their union. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (50)
                                                                                 Keep telling yourself that. - (bepatient) - (49)
                                                                                     Right. - (mmoffitt) - (48)
                                                                                         I might be missing something - (drewk)
                                                                                         Less competition? - (ben_tilly) - (38)
                                                                                             Really? - (mmoffitt) - (37)
                                                                                                 There have been some casualties but... - (ben_tilly)
                                                                                                 In their place is - (bepatient) - (35)
                                                                                                     Independence and ATA? You're kidding, right? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (34)
                                                                                                         Why would i be kidding? - (bepatient) - (33)
                                                                                                             Don't forget crappy service. - (Another Scott) - (18)
                                                                                                                 Those things exist - (bepatient) - (13)
                                                                                                                     You missed my point. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                                                                         I more "bypassed" it that missed it. - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                                                                             My TDI wagon gets 50-51 mpg highway. $25-$30 each way. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                                                                                 Would I complain of seat pitch... - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                                                                                     Yeah, the backseat is tight. - (Another Scott)
                                                                                                                     WHAT? - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                                                                                                         I suspect it's something like this. - (Another Scott)
                                                                                                                         You may want to check with a real person - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                                                                             Mea Culpa - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                                                                                 I am talking fares The People pay. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                                                                                                     But business class pays for the people - (ben_tilly)
                                                                                                                                     Business Class is C or J or D or Z - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                                                                                         There's no "class" at all in Fort Wayne. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                                                 Driving > Flying - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                                                                                     Got iPod? -NT - (admin) - (2)
                                                                                                                         Ar, and an iTrip. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                                                                             ++fsckinga -NT - (inthane-chan)
                                                                                                             ATA's bankrupt, for instance. - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                                                                                                                 So? - (bepatient) - (12)
                                                                                                                     Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (11)
                                                                                                                         So are you officially changing your point now? - (bepatient) - (10)
                                                                                                                             he officially changed his point by not offering $39 - (boxley) - (8)
                                                                                                                                 :0) - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                                                                                                                     AvGas is cheaper - (drewk) - (6)
                                                                                                                                         Show me the brewery, dairy, olive oil or corn oil company - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                                                                                                                             There's this saying I like - (drewk) - (4)
                                                                                                                                                 Let me see if I'm hearing you right. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                                                                                                     More like we're screwing ourselves, but close enough - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                                                                                                         I do my part. I don't even own a car. - (Silverlock)
                                                                                                                                                 .oO0 Brevity Award 0Oo. ___with 3 K-Y packets. - (Ashton)
                                                                                                                             FWA's available destinations and carriers have been hit. - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                         You are so wrong here I don't know how to respond - (bepatient) - (7)
                                                                                             easy response, the next bash Mikey is the taxi driver - (boxley) - (6)
                                                                                                 Make sure.. - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                                                     OTOH - (imric) - (4)
                                                                                                         Thats true, BUT - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                                                             Don't give up your day job.... :-) -NT - (jbrabeck)
                                                                                                             OK.. That___earns you a challenge - - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                                                                 ICpartialLRPD - (drewk)
                                             Which kind of average? - (ben_tilly)
                                             I know that one buddy has been looking constantly - (imric) - (2)
                                                 *grin* OT - (imric)
                                                 Lots of us moved against our wishes -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                             Ah, the Logical Positivism of Econ catechism. - (Ashton) - (6)
                                                 Nicely confused - (bepatient)
                                                 its not like its a new concept, read yer history - (boxley) - (4)
                                                     That was then. - (Ashton) - (3)
                                                         that is now, people dont change - (boxley) - (2)
                                                             No, that is not 'people' - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                 my kids are all feral, good trainer, not :-( -NT - (boxley)

Why do you ask me? You know I cannot do this thing anymore with the bugs.
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