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New Yep, Peter's right: Now it's you, Ashton...
...who are talking bollocks.

And if you can't admit that, then you'll be told this again and again, every time you talk this particular kind of bollocks.

(And if *that* makes *you* want to take your ball and go home... Then good riddance to you, too. Just because Ross happened to be a buddy of yours does not, in fact, mean that he couldn't be at least as loony as Norm, at times.)


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Yes Mr. Garrison, genetic engineering lets us correct God's horrible, horrible mistakes, like German people. - [link|http://maxpages.com/southpark2k/Episode_105|Mr. Hat]
New You're both wrong! Certs is a rectal suppository!
(Note to CRC: allusion to stateside 1960s ad campaign for "breath mint") (armchair psychology follows)

—or I could be wrong, but I never thought that Ross was "hounded" out of here, or for that matter fled because he couldn't take the heat. True, he often found himself a minority of one, and deservedly so, rhapsodizing about the bucolic antebellum South (although I suspect that many of the dismissive responses, my own included, were delivered with less thought than the provocative posts deserved) or lapsing into that snarling misogyny to which he was lamentably prone. I'm inclined to believe, though, that his withdrawal from these parts was probably of a piece with a broader retreat from online engagement—something I find intermittently, albeit briefly, necessary for my own stability, and deSitter's nerves are tuned to a higher pitch, and hence the more tautly strung, than mine own. Personal circumstances permitting, he may be disposed at some point to rejoin us (I would be prepared to pay admission to see him spar with bionerd), or it may be that he looks back on IWT as I do on unfiltered Camels: a youthful indulgence wistfully recalled but best not revisited. I hope for the former: at his best his discourses were dazzling, and his posts reliably struck sparks off the other members.

And while it grieves me to differ with our Teuton of the Tundra, I respectfully submit that when we speak of lunacy no one here, not Ross at his most eccentric, not Ashton at his most obscurely oracular, is worthy to be mentioned in the same breath with He Who Must Not Be Named (And Didn't He Have a Lot of Them), who fortunately remains sui generis in the history of these precincts.

cordially,
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
New I think he needed a bigger playpen.
Ross likes attention. Recall that on many occasions he started, er, controversial discussions just to "stir the pot". That's fine, up to a point.

I also recall that he was talking about getting a scientific discussion board going here. I don't think anything came of that.

I think Ross just needed, or thought he needed, a bigger forum to get more out of it. He posted here a lot - 12639, still #3 on the list. (Plus, there are his other handles.) I think he came to view us as not providing enough of a challenge. That's fine - I know I wasn't. :-/

You may be right that he simply decided to take a breather from on-line discussions, too. I would certainly welcome him back, but wouldn't let fear of driving him off keep me from keeping me from arguing with him. He's a big boy who knows how things are.

FWIW.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Sounds about right to me
When you get to a point you pretty much know what everyone's going to have to say about a subject, it gets stale. And the things he was really interested in, there just aren't enough people here who could keep up with the math or physics to make it interesting.
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New Close...
Elements of both - he wasn't enjoying himself as much here as well. He was getting agitated when he posted, and didn't need that in his life. FWIW, he does miss us. He may be back someday - but I really doubt he will ever participate to the same degree as he did.

Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Which would be a good thing
FWIW, he does miss us. He may be back someday - but I really doubt he will ever participate to the same degree as he did.

I would love to see him back. But if he hasn't learned that there is a point when you should just drop an argument because it isn't going anyplace, he is just going to get himself upset again.

Jay
New Tell him the old Marxist says hello and wishes well.
bcnu,
Mikem

It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
New Will do!

Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Wish him a happy Year of the Dog too.
     I miss Ross - (broomberg) - (25)
         at beep's but not the board Im afraid -NT - (boxley) - (1)
             So 7 months until it see him? -NT - (broomberg)
         I've tried... -NT - (imric)
         Ditto. - (ChrisR) - (21)
             He was made to feel too-heretical - (Ashton) - (20)
                 Hounded, my arse. - (pwhysall) - (11)
                     Maybe OK for the rilly-short form. - (Ashton) - (10)
                         Re: Maybe OK for the rilly-short form. - (pwhysall)
                         Yep, Peter's right: Now it's you, Ashton... - (CRConrad) - (8)
                             You're both wrong! Certs is a rectal suppository! - (rcareaga) - (7)
                                 I think he needed a bigger playpen. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     Sounds about right to me - (drewk)
                                 Close... - (imric) - (4)
                                     Which would be a good thing - (JayMehaffey)
                                     Tell him the old Marxist says hello and wishes well. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                         Will do! -NT - (imric) - (1)
                                             Wish him a happy Year of the Dog too. -NT - (Another Scott)
                 If I quit IWT, would he come back? - (Nightowl) - (7)
                     He's a big boy. You didn't chase him away. -NT - (Another Scott)
                     doubt he really gives a rats ass -NT - (boxley)
                     No - (broomberg) - (2)
                         ..but we'll always have Paris (new thread) - (Ashton)
                         No - (Nightowl)
                     Never mind - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                         And here I thought you were at least thinking of himSelf... -NT - (CRConrad)

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