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New triangulation would find any cell phone
only use it for outbound calls and turn it off otherwise.
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New Simpler solution.
Don't have a cell phone. I'm doing great without one.

Also, I've heard that even with it off, the most recent generation still have the capacity to respond to a request for location - meaning the only way to be truly private is to pull the battery. :P
When somebody asks you to trade your freedom for security, it isn't your security they're talking about.
New Acme Niobium/Iridium Faraday cage for cell phones:
It's the latest in tinfoil hattery for when you want to decide when you're found.

</GaryOwens>

;-)

Cheers,
Scott.
New Would take a little longer with triangulation vs GPS
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
Expand Edited by jbrabeck Dec. 23, 2005, 03:12:32 PM EST
New Wouldn't that be pentangulation?
bcnu,
Mikem

It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
New Do US phones tell the user where they are?
It's just a gimmick, but sitting there watching the phone change suburbs, even when standing in the same spot, can be amusing for a minute or two. And sometimes the carriers put a different message on, like a Merry Xmas, or a 'go the swannies!', even a Happy Mardi Gras.
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
New You must be joking.
Here in the U.S., cell phone providers charge for everything. Feliciations and good wishes? That'll be $40/month.
When somebody asks you to trade your freedom for security, it isn't your security they're talking about.
New You have to pull the battery
to make it go silent. Powering off will NOT eliminate the "chirps" that can be detected and tracked by the right equipment.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Even the CIA don't know this.
Per the [link|http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0512250380dec25,1,7824008.story?ctrack=1&cset=true|Chicago Tribune]

CIA's bungled Italy job


Sloppy use of cell phones, other missteps help police unravel cleric's 2003 abduction



By John Crewdson
Tribune senior correspondent
Published December 25, 2005

MILAN, Italy -- The trick is known to just about every two-bit crook in the cellular age: If you don't want the cops to know where you are, take the battery out of your cell phone when it's not in use.

Had that trick been taught at the CIA's rural Virginia training school for covert operatives, the Bush administration might have avoided much of the current crisis in Europe over the practice the CIA calls "rendition," and CIA Director Porter Goss might not have ordered a sweeping review of the agency's field operations.

But when CIA operatives assembled here nearly three years ago to abduct an Egyptian-born Muslim preacher named Osama Moustafa Hassan Nasr, more familiarly known as Abu Omar, and "render" him to Cairo, they left their cell phone batteries in.

Even when not in use, a cell phone sends a periodic signal indicating its location, enabling the worldwide cellular network to know where to look for it in case of an incoming call.

Those signals allowed police investigating Abu Omar's mysterious disappearance to ultimately construct an almost minute-by-minute record of his abduction, and to identify nearly two dozen people as his abductors.


Apparently, the indiscriminate use of cell phones scuttled (or at least exposed) a black-op.

So our gub'mint, after wringing their hands and having "inquiries", may have decided, "Gee, maybe we can do this, too!"
jb4
shrub●bish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Love. It.___even better -
Send "your" celfone off with another spook - - alibi-creation.

Employ several disposable new fones on a rumble; Batt-in; use once, batt-out; mash/toss.
Cheaper than those new trucks abandoned in Iraq for flat tires - new one requisitioned.

I should work for GSA. Or they, for me.

New thats why you keep a trunk full of cloned cells
use and lose.
thanx,
bill
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
     And now the Americans are at it. - (pwhysall) - (14)
         Here we often call them cell phones. - (a6l6e6x) - (13)
             There's the case of the "cell phone bandit" too. - (Another Scott) - (12)
                 Doubt if we'll need to talk - (jbrabeck) - (11)
                     triangulation would find any cell phone - (boxley) - (10)
                         Simpler solution. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                             Acme Niobium/Iridium Faraday cage for cell phones: - (Another Scott)
                         Would take a little longer with triangulation vs GPS -NT - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                             Wouldn't that be pentangulation? -NT - (mmoffitt)
                         Do US phones tell the user where they are? - (Meerkat) - (1)
                             You must be joking. - (inthane-chan)
                         You have to pull the battery - (bepatient) - (3)
                             Even the CIA don't know this. - (jb4) - (2)
                                 Love. It.___even better - - (Ashton) - (1)
                                     thats why you keep a trunk full of cloned cells - (boxley)

Boy, isn't that true about damn near any subject?
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