Fuji S5200 digital camera

Post #237,127 by Arkadiy 12/5/05 9:52:39 PM Reply	Fuji S5200 digital camera Tried it for a few days, returned. Nice camera, but the super-photosensitivity image stabilization does not work as advertized, and the manual focus is next to impossible to use. So, overall, nice point-and-click with 10x zoom and a need for tripod. Next: will see if Panasonic Lumix Z5 is better. ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]
Post #237,143 by folkert 12/6/05 8:29:25 AM Reply	Try the Pentax Optio series They are vera-nice. My Pentax Optio 750z is supah nice. I don't have a bad thing to say about it, barring Christian thinking it has styling similar to 1970s vintage cameras. Other than the one thing, it is a fantastic camera. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #237,145 by admin 12/6/05 8:55:11 AM Reply	Seconded. Love the Optio 550. The only complaint is that the camera takes about 5-7 seconds to boot, and I've missed a few shots because of that. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #237,154 by drewk 12/6/05 10:01:49 AM Reply	What's the optical zoom? Two things I care about in my next digital: optical zoom, and how fast it can focus and shoot. Not just the boot time. My last digital, after pressing the shutter button it was a second or more to focus before it would shoot. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #237,183 by tonytib 12/6/05 1:20:19 PM Reply	D-SLR's are by far the fastest and coming down in price
Post #237,261 by folkert 12/7/05 7:47:10 AM Reply	My Optio 750z is 10x zoom Optical There are 2 settings for focus on the 750z One is equivalently "Small box in center of viewer or Nearly the whole blooming viewer" It takes a lot longer fot the large box... as it has to average everything. Two is focus mode "Single or Continuous" Single works very well for a quick series as it only has to focus once. Continuous is just that, it basically finalizes and shoot (easily less than .50000235168709^{[link\|#one\|1]} seconds using the Big Area, faster yet with the Small area) Basically this thing is only carried online or in "Professional Photograohy Shops", I have yet to see it in places like Best Buy or the such. So, IMO, goto a Pro Photo Shop and look at it (call ahead first to find one) -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned. `1 == Yes Drew, it was added for your [link\|http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=contrivance\|contrivance] spotting skills`
Post #237,190 by tuberculosis 12/6/05 2:08:12 PM Reply	My current top two candidates [link\|http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AYKUUQ\|Canon Powershot SD550 7.1MP Digital Elph Camera with 3x Optical Zoom] Ultra compact point and shooter. When you want to carry a camera all the time. I've met two people with this one and they rave about it. For the more serious shutterbug: [link\|http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009GZSSO\|Canon Powershot S2 IS 5MP Digital Camera with 12x Optical Image Stabilized Zoom] Too big for every day, but 12x optical zoom with image stabilization (which I totally need) seems like a deal. I have a friend with one of these - he also raves. I'm still trying to decide what kind of camera person I might be - daily or special occasions. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #237,223 by drewk 12/6/05 5:35:37 PM Reply	Check this out Go [link\|http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare.asp\|here]. Set "Zoom tele (T)" to "200 mm +" and submit. The first thing up is the Canon PowerShot S1 IS. 3MP, 10x optical zoom, image stabilized, accepts wide and tele lens attachments, $216 refurb. Looking hard at this one. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #237,231 by tuberculosis 12/6/05 7:23:10 PM Reply	Yeah, but that's a whole camera So it would compete against the S2 and the S2 has more zoom. The D550 is about the size and shape of a deck of cards and has a huge LCD. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #237,258 by Ashton 12/7/05 3:52:04 AM 12/7/05 3:56:13 AM Reply	Ahh.. synergy - still, all I need is___Macro! Nice review/compare site. Alas, sampling the comments re Canon S1 IS - macro seems to be its weak link (possibly alleviated via an overpriced? accessory kit.) Otherwise, at $216 I might have sprung, too. Most described the jitter control as bitchin, and the X10 and mondo other features. Seems a steal for everything except! what I want :( (And according to one poster, one can.. tweak it a bit with some 'internal focus adjustments', supposedly described in the Hints & Tips forum -- but I can't envision screwdriver-adjust pots inside a consumer camera? so I kinda Doubt This.) Someone else tauted the S410 4MP ELPH for macro goodness ~ $239, but $70 for a mere AC adaptor (most of my shots will be on-site.) Will look closer at that. Canon did me a Good Turn once - so I'm biased to look there; Corp decency is so rare: even one example becomes memorable. My now hoary hP C-20 wasn't 'good' even at car-sized objects; was merely cheap as a refurb.. at the time. A friend's early Sony Mavica - with its rilly Clever use (then) of a 3.5" floppy - was perfect for close-ups of instrument panels, scope traces etc. (even of coins: the real test.) But, wasn't mine - and too few MPs (1.2? 1.5?) for satisfactory resolution pics of anything larger. Hmm, maybe with all you folks upgrading: Your trade-in gots decent macro capabilities? I could be a customer. If a coin can be shot full-size and sharp, that'd likely do for my limited aims - most pics would end up compressed to a 80-150K jpeg, anyway. USB quite preferable to {ugh} serial - though with a CF card I could just pop the sucker into an adaptor. I wouldn't need more than 32-64 MB: Gak! a GB to make that Canon into an 8-min camcorder?! Digital stuff evokes weirdness, no? If I want panoramic or mountain pix, my trusty Canon L1A can do quite well - via real film with gamma, \ufffd-stops, and Moi setting the depth of field. I tend to prefer analog chemistry of dyes over digits, for reasons tangible and in-. Also B&W occasionally; good enough for A. Adams. Just a thought re recycling, moi Did I mention? I Hate Shopping! There's too damn Many of these things out there professing to do All-Things 'well'. It's like ordering up a 747, built-to-specs / and with lousy after-sale service - many buyers report. Ed tpoy Edited by Ashton Dec. 7, 2005, 03:56:13 AM EST Expand All History
Post #237,305 by tonytib 12/7/05 7:12:36 PM Reply	For very special occasions For significantly more money, a [link\|http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/maxxum5d.html\|Konica Minolta 5D] can give much better results. It has built-in anti-shake, so all lenses are stabilized; anti-shake typically lets you use a shutter speed 2-3 stops lower than without it. If you want 10x zoom, you can get either 18-200mm (27-300mm 35mm equiv) or 28-300mm zooms. For very low light, you can use primes (e.g. 50mm f1.7) or shorter zooms (e.g. 28-75 f2.8) The bigger sensor has several advantages, including much better quality, especially at higher ISO's. For example, compare at full resolution (if Firefox scales, have it show at 100%): [link\|http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/s2is/samples/IMG_0044.JPG\|Canon S2IS ISO 100] [link\|http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/s2is/samples/IMG_0048.JPG\|Canon S2IS ISO 400] [link\|http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/maxxum5d/samples/PICT0015_iso100.JPG\|KM 5D ISO 100] [link\|http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/maxxum5d/samples/PICT0017_iso400.JPG\|KM 5D ISO 400] [link\|http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/maxxum5d/samples/PICT0020_iso3200.JPG\|KM 5D ISO 3200] IMHO the 5D at 3200 is better than the S2 at 400. The 5D (and big brother 7D) are the best cameras for existing light photography. The larger sensor also gives less depth of field for a given aperture (which can be good, e.g. when doing classic portraits) or bad (if you're trying to get everything in focus). It's harder to make faster lenses for a larger sensor (e.g. f2.8 constant aperture zooms can be large and expensive), and typically D-SLR's (or Sony DSC-1) are significantly bigger than digicams. In the end, photography is still mostly about light and composition, but I've enjoyed my D-SLR a lot more than my digicam. Tony
Post #237,320 by Another Scott 12/7/05 10:28:51 PM Reply	Thanks for the info. I'm not camera hunting, but hmmmm...
Post #237,341 by tonytib 12/8/05 11:55:39 AM Reply	There's a lot to consider First, to D-SLR or not. Lighting and composition are more important than the camera, but a good camera can help. D-SLR's have much fewer limitations (all can handle external flashes with bounce, many can do wireless flash, lots of different lenses including tilt and shift, high frame rates, etc), but they're bigger (although some of the digicams are about as big as the entry level D-SLRs) and more expensive (starting about $600 body only). One plus is being able to buy used lenses; that's helping me. It seems that all the D-SLR's, including entry level, are pretty good, but some are better for certain styles. For example, for existing light (which I love to do), the Konica Minolta 5D and 7D are the best, due to built-in anti-shake and good high ISO performance. Canon and Nikon are next because you can get stabilized lenses for them and they have good high ISO performance. Olympus is not, because their cameras aren't good over ISO 400. For sports, Canon is probably best because their cameras have excellent autofocus performance (better than K-M), lots of affordable USM lenses (silent ultrasonic motors in the lenses), and high frame rates (20D is 5 frames per second, K-M 7D is 3). Other considerations include viewfinders, camera controls, build quality, etc. The K-M 7D was the obvious choice for me because it had anti-shake, the most physical interface (more dials and knobs than any other D-SLR), big LCD, excellent viewfinder, and cost the same as a Canon 350D with one stabilized lens. It's nice to have two camera, a big, capable one for special occasions, and a small compact one to bring everywhere. In the near future, camera phones might be good enough to replace the compact camera. Tony
Post #237,216 by imqwerky 12/6/05 4:46:01 PM Reply	My son likes his Got him one for Christmas last year. He was a photographer for the yearbook. Just about wet his pants when he got his camera, but then, he specifically asked for the Fuji S5200. Guess he is comfortable with its quirks. Peace, Amy "It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
Post #237,263 by folkert 12/7/05 8:23:29 AM Reply	For you to compare Side-by-side all cameras mentioned here. [link\|http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_sd550%2Ccanon_s1is%2Ccanon_s2is%2Cpentax_optio550%2Cpentax_optio555%2Cpentax_optio750z%2Cpanasonic_dmcfz5&show=all\|Canon Powershot SD550, Canon Powershot S1is, Canon Powershot S2is, Pentax Optio 550, Pentax Optio 555, Pentax Optio 750z, Panasonic DMC FZ5] I added the Pentax Optio 555 as it is more available than the 550, these are both either discontined or will be shortly. Drew look at the differences in the Resolution Chart and the Colour Patches taken by the Powershot S1is and the Optio 550. I see many bad things with both of them. But they are significanly better than many other cameras. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #237,405 by Arkadiy 12/8/05 9:52:03 PM Reply	I looked at dpreview reports for Canon S2 They note "softness", (over)compensated by in-camera processing. Since my current camera is a low-level Canon, and I am not that happy with sharpnes, that review spooked me. I did get my Panasonic LZ5. I like it much better than Fuji. The optical stabilization actually works, the macro mode is better. I do have to agree that focus aid lamp works much better in Fuji - Pnansonic sometimes can't focus in low light. More impressions on Panasonic as I get to play with it more. ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]
Post #237,843 by broomberg 12/12/05 9:44:37 PM Reply	Check this out [link\|http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001055.php\|http://www.kk.org/co...chives/001055.php]
Post #237,848 by drewk 12/12/05 10:44:12 PM Reply	Looks nice I'm trying to talk myself into a nice, pocketsize with a 3x zoom for my wife and one of these for me. Lessee ... how much overtime will I be doing ... === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #237,865 by Ashton 12/13/05 4:50:55 AM Reply	Well.. I have a Canon enroute Aimed for 'adequacy' ie <$200 and good macro - while cognizant of all the other characteristics which could make it a decent all-round boxlet. Shocked! at how much you can get in '05 for so little.. 4x opt. zoom, etc. Must be 3+ generations over my crummy hP C-20. Apropos: usage by one's mate figured into several reviews, noting that the default options were about spot-on for simple use / while the gadgetry may be defeated in order to use one's experience with real cameras (lock speed or \ufffd-stop, etc.) <180 New on eBay; no point in used/open-box for so little saved. About the price of a used modest lens for my Nikon F-2, which I long ago peddled for more than I paid.. collectors! {argggh} - fallout from Antiques Roadshow dreamstuff? (If I wanted max res. / 8 MP+ it'd be SLR, big bucks and pretty much the list Tony covers above, including (!) supersonic shake-motors inside lenses; sheesh - it's just like the chimera$ of hi-end audio.) Canon A510 I opted for the 3.2 MP over the 4 MP (A520), partly for the reasons stated in this and other nit-picky reviews - with pics to support the pickery - and because $100 extra buys no better performance except a bit higher resolution, at the cost of the added noise demonstrated.. and more purple fringing on sky over-exposure, as through trees; especially if one uses ISO >50 a lot. A510/520 comparo: [link\|http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_a510_a520-review/\|http://www.dcresourc...a510_a520-review/] (But as with all Web-truth, others found no problem with red-eye suppression - and only modest gripes about low-light auto-focus use, since it has an auto-zoom thingie for good manual focus ... etc. Maybe these guys need to pick 3 samples randomly.) Others (since I have them) Begin: [link\|http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/a510.html\|http://www.steves-di...reviews/a510.html] Conclusion: [link\|http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/a510_pg7.html\|http://www.steves-di...ews/a510_pg7.html] Conclusion: [link\|http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canona510/page9.asp\|http://www.dpreview....nona510/page9.asp] Bon appetit (were I rich, I'd likely give a close look at the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ5 too; 'better' is more fun, just-because it's There. It's also likely the most common addiction after junk-food, in our Mall-world.) I see.. I see.. The 2006 Porsche\ufffd Voracious-III 30 MP Titanium-Niobium SLR with: 25x optical zoom from amoeba-level microscopy to faux 1000mm; 30 fps video/sound at 1024 x 768, with the new 20 GB SDXX card auto-feeder + optical connection to your home T-1. Price? if you have to ask, from the seat of your Carrera - - Endless...

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