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New We make them independent of code, and do them first
We are not, however, using significant PL/SQL.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Automated or no?
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New No
Changes are fairly minor and not that frequent. We'll probably tighten this up after it becomes an issue, but it hasn't ever been one. If we did more in the database, or more databases to synchronize, then we'd automate in a heartbeat.

The farthest that we've gone towards automation is to have a file listing things that need to be done before a push. The push halts, displays the file, and asks if this has been done yet.

Remember the scale here. We have less than 10 developers, and logic tends to be implemented at the Perl level. (Major exception, reports tend to be built in pure SQL.)

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
     How do you manage database changes? - (admin) - (21)
         Re: How do you manage database changes? - (JimWeirich) - (11)
             Mind responding to some rails criticism? - (ben_tilly) - (10)
                 I would be interested to see... - (admin) - (8)
                     A Nested Comments Example - (JimWeirich) - (7)
                         Either one of us is missing something, or Rails is magic - (drewk) - (6)
                             I Missed Something - (JimWeirich) - (5)
                                 Adjacency trees are simple. - (admin) - (4)
                                     Re: Adjacency trees are simple. - (JimWeirich) - (3)
                                         The arbitrary SQL somewhat answers my question... - (admin)
                                         Not what he meant - (drewk) - (1)
                                             Re: Not what he meant - (JimWeirich)
                 Re: Mind responding to some rails criticism? - (JimWeirich)
         Weekly change scripts - (Yendor) - (3)
             We do something like that. - (static) - (2)
                 Oh, *that* process will scale well :-/ -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                     Tell me about it. - (static)
         We make them independent of code, and do them first - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             Automated or no? -NT - (admin) - (1)
                 No - (ben_tilly)
         Two answers - (tuberculosis)
         Re: How do you manage database changes? - (dws)

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