I seem to recall the dot test

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Post #232,026 by broomberg 11/1/05 10:43:06 PM Reply	I seem to recall the dot test Paint a dot on the subject. Put them in front of a mirror. Observe if the see the dot and then reach to themselves, or to the mirror image. Dolphins and people (age 11 months or so) reach to themselves, no others.
Post #232,027 by Andrew Grygus 11/1/05 10:56:39 PM Reply	I see this as proving . . . . . an understanding of mirrors, nothing more. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #232,034 by ben_tilly 11/1/05 11:19:34 PM Reply	Chimpanzees also figure it out quickly I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

in the WTF category Brit beleive in ghosts but not gods - (boxley) - (33) - Nov. 1, 2005, 01:11:53 PM EST

Why? - (jbrabeck) - (5) - Nov. 1, 2005, 01:17:27 PM EST

those that dont beleive in gods often claim logic an science - (boxley) - (4) - Nov. 1, 2005, 01:22:23 PM EST

I can see your logic - (jbrabeck) - (3) - Nov. 1, 2005, 01:34:50 PM EST

Ignoring, of course, all non-YHVH based religions... -NT - (imric) - Nov. 1, 2005, 01:54:19 PM EST

eh? the book is full of haints witches demons angels giants - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 1, 2005, 02:10:01 PM EST

Re: eh? the book is full of haints witches demons angels gia - (jb4) - Nov. 1, 2005, 02:20:41 PM EST

Not so. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Nov. 1, 2005, 01:50:08 PM EST

not required but inffered all matter is energy -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 1, 2005, 02:10:58 PM EST

Animism - (warmachine) - (9) - Nov. 1, 2005, 03:29:58 PM EST

just another word for god - (boxley) - (8) - Nov. 1, 2005, 04:11:40 PM EST

A force with no self awareness, unlike any god... - (warmachine) - (7) - Nov. 1, 2005, 07:49:00 PM EST

better take either a religious or anthropology class - (boxley) - (5) - Nov. 1, 2005, 08:00:33 PM EST

That doesn't contradict me - (warmachine) - (4) - Nov. 1, 2005, 09:09:10 PM EST

What makes you think lizards are not self aware? - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Nov. 1, 2005, 10:30:28 PM EST

I seem to recall the dot test - (broomberg) - (2) - Nov. 1, 2005, 10:43:06 PM EST

I see this as proving . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Nov. 1, 2005, 10:56:39 PM EST

Chimpanzees also figure it out quickly -NT - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 1, 2005, 11:19:34 PM EST

Agreement - (Ashton) - Nov. 2, 2005, 08:11:55 PM EST

For specific definitions of god - (JayMehaffey) - Nov. 1, 2005, 05:13:34 PM EST

What? You think that Hindus don't exist? - (ben_tilly) - (13) - Nov. 1, 2005, 05:54:38 PM EST

Well said. - (imric) - Nov. 1, 2005, 07:18:07 PM EST

prove hindu's exist - (boxley) - (11) - Nov. 1, 2005, 08:06:00 PM EST

Look at the survey question - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 1, 2005, 09:01:00 PM EST

What's all this "G_d" business? - (pwhysall) - (8) - Nov. 1, 2005, 11:42:43 PM EST

It's a common sign of respect or reverence. - (Another Scott) - (7) - Nov. 1, 2005, 11:56:41 PM EST

You'll be referring to me as P_t_r, then, I take it? - (pwhysall) - (6) - Nov. 2, 2005, 12:05:24 AM EST

Still... - (Another Scott) - (4) - Nov. 2, 2005, 12:22:29 AM EST

But the only "holy" name is the Hebrew one, innit? - (pwhysall) - Nov. 2, 2005, 01:00:47 AM EST

Interesting comment in the Wikipedia discussion: - (pwhysall) - (2) - Nov. 2, 2005, 01:18:27 AM EST

Well, he'd better convert to Christianity right away . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Nov. 2, 2005, 02:28:51 AM EST

I'm just glad I'm an atheist... - (pwhysall) - Nov. 2, 2005, 02:46:57 AM EST

if you note this is the only forum that I usually do it -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 2, 2005, 12:01:18 PM EST

Dupe -NT - (pwhysall) - Nov. 1, 2005, 11:43:07 PM EST

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