Im surprised they havnt looked at the brit Derry model

armor, regardless of strength is projectile prone. A specific shaped charge can go thru anything with enough velocity.
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The attack occurred less than 100 meters from the spot where three soldiers were killed and a fourth wounded when an 80-kilogram mine exploded underneath their Merkava Mk III last month. All the soldiers belong to the Sufa armored battalion, which has served in the area for a number of months.

At 6:30 a.m., an army tracker was walking in front of two tanks, with a unit of Givati Brigade soldiers on foot in the rear, to secure the road leading from nearby Netzarim, when the mine exploded underneath one of the tanks. Officials think the terrorists hid behind a mosque near the roadside and detonated the mine by remote control.

The force off the blast blew off the tank's turret, throwing the tank commander into the air and wounding the tracker.

The explosion, which set the tank on fire, killed one of the tank crew instantly; the two other crew members were burned to death.

thanks,
Bill

Post #231,887 by boxley 11/1/05 11:45:53 AM Reply	Im surprised they havnt looked at the brit Derry model 4 troops in a stripped out jeep using heavy body armour instead. facing all 4 directions.To cover against rifle fire. They would be able to unass an area more quickly than an armoured hummer. thanx, bill "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #231,906 by jb4 11/1/05 12:35:57 PM Reply	NIH syndrome? jb4 shrub●bish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #231,919 by boxley 11/1/05 1:25:55 PM Reply	no, the Israelis have more current experience in urban war they tend to use a heavy armour philosophy and we crosstrain a lot with them. thanx, bill "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #231,935 by inthane-chan 11/1/05 2:37:15 PM Reply	Don't they have a virtually unkillable tank? I seem to remember something about their tank (the Merkerva?) being the most heavily armored and surviveable tank in the world... When somebody asks you to trade your freedom for security, it isn't your security they're talking about.
Post #231,938 by boxley 11/1/05 2:55:27 PM Reply	not anymore, the PALs have designed around that armor, regardless of strength is projectile prone. A specific shaped charge can go thru anything with enough velocity. [link\|http://info.jpost.com/C002/Supplements/CasualtiesOfWar/2002_03_14.html\|http://info.jpost.co...r/2002_03_14.html] The attack occurred less than 100 meters from the spot where three soldiers were killed and a fourth wounded when an 80-kilogram mine exploded underneath their Merkava Mk III last month. All the soldiers belong to the Sufa armored battalion, which has served in the area for a number of months. At 6:30 a.m., an army tracker was walking in front of two tanks, with a unit of Givati Brigade soldiers on foot in the rear, to secure the road leading from nearby Netzarim, when the mine exploded underneath one of the tanks. Officials think the terrorists hid behind a mosque near the roadside and detonated the mine by remote control. The force off the blast blew off the tank's turret, throwing the tank commander into the air and wounding the tracker. The explosion, which set the tank on fire, killed one of the tank crew instantly; the two other crew members were burned to death. thanks, Bill "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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