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Post #229,955 by ben_tilly 10/18/05 1:59:03 PM Reply	Maybe They get away with this crap because they know full well that most people will not fight it. If people did, then it would be cheaper for them to give you the benefit of the doubt. That said, look carefully at your policy to see whether you will win. The fact that your daughter was not legally at fault does not mean that a defensive driver would not have avoided the accident. If their standards are based on whether it was avoidable, then the fact that you were legally doing the right thing in the right place does not necessarily mean that you'll win this judgement. The other thing to look at is what this means for your daughter's premiums. Is it possible that if she accepts some responsibility for the accident, that her premiums will go up more? If so, then you could be talking a lot more than $200-$300! Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #229,961 by jbrabeck 10/18/05 2:26:59 PM Reply	Clarification She in 100% not at fault for the accident. Allstate is the other driver's insurance company. Thier contention is she didn't slow down for the intersection. (169.14) My counter is that she was already exiting the intersection when the other driver hit her, and that there was no time for evasive action. A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
Post #229,962 by boxley 10/18/05 2:31:43 PM Reply	different circumstances they as defendants will try to leach you as low as possible. If the total damages are 2k or less they are right in suggesting small claims court. My suggestion is to have your daughter seen by a doctor for depression and politely submit the medical bill to Allstate asking them to pay these costs until the matter is settled. thanx, bill "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #229,964 by drewk 10/18/05 2:34:02 PM Reply	Call your state's Attorney General now They're liable and completely relying on your unwillingness to fight them. Contact the AG before you talk to Allstate or any lawyer. Once there's litigation involved the AG can't get involved. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #230,015 by folkert 10/18/05 9:21:28 PM Reply	Do ^^^ this first. Then take my advice if warranted. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #230,042 by mmoffitt 10/19/05 9:58:17 AM Reply	Yes! Ask for the Consumer Protection Division. And file a formal complaint. A lot of states now have an online complaint form. If your state doesn't, call their office and they'll send you one. The cool thing about that is that Allstate will have to respond directly to the AG, not you. By doing this (and this might vary by state, I'm not sure, but every state I've lived in as an adult does it this way) you are making the AG the middle-man between you. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #229,990 by ben_tilly 10/18/05 5:45:33 PM Reply	Definitely fight it! (But see Drew's advice.) I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

Should I fight Allstate insurance company? - (jbrabeck) - (35) - Oct. 18, 2005, 01:40:12 PM EDT

rip them a new one starting with the Insurance commisioner - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 18, 2005, 01:48:58 PM EDT

Also sniff around to see if there is any class action suits - (boxley) - Oct. 18, 2005, 01:50:31 PM EDT

Maybe - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Oct. 18, 2005, 01:59:03 PM EDT

Clarification - (jbrabeck) - (5) - Oct. 18, 2005, 02:26:59 PM EDT

different circumstances - (boxley) - Oct. 18, 2005, 02:31:43 PM EDT

Call your state's Attorney General *now* - (drewk) - (2) - Oct. 18, 2005, 02:34:02 PM EDT

Do ^^^ this first. Then take my advice if warranted. -NT - (folkert) - Oct. 18, 2005, 09:21:28 PM EDT

Yes! Ask for the Consumer Protection Division. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 19, 2005, 09:58:17 AM EDT

Definitely fight it! (But see Drew's advice.) -NT - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 18, 2005, 05:45:33 PM EDT

Talk to your insurance company - (bepatient) - (2) - Oct. 18, 2005, 02:35:59 PM EDT

Bill, Allstate == company for both parties. -NT - (folkert) - (1) - Oct. 18, 2005, 09:20:00 PM EDT

Still, agent can/should counterclaim - (bepatient) - Oct. 18, 2005, 10:15:34 PM EDT

My wife is an Insurance Agents - (folkert) - (6) - Oct. 18, 2005, 09:19:26 PM EDT

Just a couple more clarifications - (jbrabeck) - (5) - Oct. 18, 2005, 10:25:56 PM EDT

Not mine, call the AG - (drewk) - Oct. 18, 2005, 10:44:27 PM EDT

Dunno about the other suggestions - they sound reasonable. - (Another Scott) - Oct. 18, 2005, 10:48:19 PM EDT

Not having collision shouldn't matter - (bepatient) - Oct. 19, 2005, 08:29:06 AM EDT

Allstate doesnt want to pay, that is their function - (boxley) - Oct. 19, 2005, 09:43:12 AM EDT

That changes nothing. - (folkert) - Oct. 19, 2005, 12:01:38 PM EDT

Updates - (jbrabeck) - (5) - Nov. 17, 2005, 10:10:49 AM EST

Thanks. Keep after them. Best of luck. -NT - (Another Scott) - Nov. 17, 2005, 10:15:07 AM EST

Excellent, please continue biting at the heels... - (folkert) - Nov. 17, 2005, 12:31:30 PM EST

Good news! Keep on keepin' on! -NT - (jb4) - Nov. 17, 2005, 02:56:52 PM EST

Go get 'em, Tiger! -NT - (imqwerky) - Nov. 17, 2005, 06:58:19 PM EST

keep after them -NT - (cforde) - Nov. 17, 2005, 10:56:35 PM EST

Resolution - (jbrabeck) - (9) - Jan. 24, 2006, 01:23:00 PM EST

:-) cool! -NT - (Steve Lowe) - Jan. 24, 2006, 01:26:04 PM EST

Woot! -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 24, 2006, 01:37:22 PM EST

AwwRIGHT! -NT - (jb4) - Jan. 24, 2006, 05:08:56 PM EST

David 1, Goliath 0 :-) -NT - (imqwerky) - Jan. 24, 2006, 08:55:33 PM EST

gotta like that, good for you. -NT - (cforde) - Jan. 25, 2006, 12:43:28 AM EST

Sometimes corps. slip and__ do the right thing. -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 25, 2006, 02:30:41 AM EST

Sehr gut! -NT - (CRConrad) - Jan. 25, 2006, 02:32:22 AM EST

Well done. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 25, 2006, 04:43:36 PM EST

Glad to hear it! -NT - (Nightowl) - Jan. 31, 2006, 12:54:40 PM EST

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