BSoD after Windows Upgrade.

Post #229,408 by a6l6e6x 10/12/05 11:00:53 PM Reply	BSoD after Windows Upgrade. After updating my Windows ME for yesterday's [link\|http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA05-284A.html\|Critical vulnerabilities] I get a BSoD. Doing a system restore to a prior date changes nothing - it's still BSoD. Well, the machine is no longer vulnerable, that's for sure. Any suggestions other than the obvious redeployment of the machine? Alex The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #229,411 by Andrew Grygus 10/12/05 11:39:54 PM 10/14/05 1:35:42 AM Reply	I've had Windows Update do that. Windows Me more commonly simply fails to successfully update. Generally you have to blow the registries. For Windows XP, just do a complete reinstall. For Windows 98/Me boot on a DOS disk, log to C: and CD to \\Windows. Remove the system and hidden attributes from System.dat and User.dat and delete or rename them. Rename the \\Windows\\Desktop directory to something else. Find the Setup program and cabs. White box builders usually put them in \\Win98, \\Winxx or something like that. For name brand builders it is often something like \\Windows\\Options\\Cabs. Log to that directory and type "Setup" and let her run. If Setup and cabs aren't on the computer, just copy the \\Win98 or \\Winxx directory from a CD to a \\Win98 directory on the hard desk, log to it and type "Setup". If it's a different version you need to delete the \\Windows\\Win.com file too. It may automatically install some of your drivers if it finds enough info in \\Windows\\inf or \\Windows\\inf\\other. If all that fails, rename the \\Windows directory to \\Zindows and try again with a fresh \\Windows directory and reinstall all your drivers. If that fails, rename the \\Program Files directory and try again. If that fails, you really didn't want to run Windows Me anyway. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx] Edited by Andrew Grygus Oct. 14, 2005, 01:35:42 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #229,413 by n3jja 10/13/05 12:26:55 AM Reply	Redeployment would take less time than all of that. ;-)
Post #229,416 by Andrew Grygus 10/13/05 12:47:46 AM Reply	Yeahbut, when you have a client . . . . . who just wants his machine working the way it did before, redeployment isn't generally an option. In some cases, particularly with Windows XP, I think the blue screen is due to previous damage by worms and trojans. They may all be cleaned out and the machine may be working just fine, but there still may be damage to system files which causes failure during update. The failure cases I've had have been when updating after cleaning out serious infections, but that's about the only time I update a Windows machine. Sometimes it seems cleaning out infectons is about all I do these days. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #229,460 by a6l6e6x 10/13/05 12:22:17 PM Reply	Thanks! Alex The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #229,610 by a6l6e6x 10/14/05 10:05:44 PM Reply	The latest version of DOS I have does not... understand FAT-32 so I went back to a restore of week back and that got me throught to a normal boot. Wheew! I seem to have some bad sectors on the hard drive and suspect that may be part of the problem. Doing a "thorough" Scandisk now. Alex The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #229,612 by Ashton 10/14/05 10:23:43 PM 10/14/05 10:33:29 PM Reply	(Might repair.. with SpinRight? [/shill]) That is.. Often enough the base format magn. domains have migrated radially with wear, time.. reducing output to read-head. Eventually enough that CRC retries won't make it. Not necessarily really 'BAD' sectors at all. SR moves all the data for each cyl, then redoes a low-level format -- where the head actually is now, etc. Also 'scrubs' adjacent bits, really pretty close to an authentic B/H curve check! Has a statistical recovery mode which makes mondo passes, where the data doesn't 'seem' to be quite there anymore: and a cute display for the Gamers -- of how it's doing. Pretty amazing stuff; from a physics perspective - it ain't no snake oil. I've seen lots of B/H curves.. Steve Gibson may not make the Top Ten here, for his Barnum pitches to the unwashed -- but I think SR is amongst the cleverest pieces of mere 'software' I've ever encountered. Luck Edited by Ashton Oct. 14, 2005, 10:33:29 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #229,614 by Andrew Grygus 10/15/05 12:42:20 AM Reply	Any working Windows 95/98 computer . . . . . (or even partially working) will be happy to make you a FAT32 capable boot disk. format a: /s If you need any of the commands like format, scandisk, fdisk, etc. just copy them out of \\Windows\\command. You should have a couple for emergencies if you maintain Windows 95/98/Me computers. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #229,625 by hnick 10/15/05 9:08:27 AM Reply	If you need a boot disk, try www.bootdisk.com [link\|http://www.bootdisk.com\|http://www.bootdisk.com] It's a pretty neat site.
Post #229,648 by a6l6e6x 10/15/05 1:14:07 PM Reply	Good idea, thanks! Alex The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell

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