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New Influenza, anyone?
If community health needs a decent facsimile of intelligent planning --
Thought I'd pass on this MoveOn piece - well, it's a start and hardly needing of spin - we kinda Know the criteria for the Cabals' picks:
Dear MoveOn member,

We've all heard the terrible warnings about the risk of an influenza pandemic from an avian flu virus. But the Bush administration official in charge of making sure America is ready has no experience related to his job\ufffdhe's a political appointee. And, a botched response could affect millions of Americans.

Stewart Simonson is the Bush administration's point man for a flu pandemic but he has no public health management experience. He got his job because he is a close associate of former Health & Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson.

[link|http://political.moveon.org/flupandemic/?id=6115-4835072-xr_CimD808k6lo8FEuawuQ&t=2|http://political.mov...8k6lo8FEuawuQ&t=2]

Your action today will draw attention to Simonson when we deliver the petitions, and will pressure Leavitt into acting. After you sign please forward this e-mail to your friends, family and colleagues.

Simonson is Assistant Secretary for Public Health Emergency Preparedness at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). His job before joining HHS was as corporate secretary and counsel for Amtrak when Thompson was chief of the rail service. Prior to Amtrak, Simonson was staff lawyer for Thompson when he was governor of Wisconsin. In short, he is not qualified for a public health job that hundreds of millions of people are counting on.

This isn't just a case of resume inflation. Simonson doesn't seem to have a grasp on the very important work he is supposed to be doing right now. At a hearing in the House of Representatives in July, Simonson claimed he had the money he needed to purchase influenza vaccine and antiviral medication. The very next day, his office submitted a funding request to Congress seeking an additional $150 million for flu vaccine and antiviral medication. Last month the Congress gave another $4 billion for the effort.

The Department of Health and Human Services is about to announce a new influenza plan. They need a highly qualified and respected professional at the helm when implementation of the plan begins. That is why it is urgent that Leavitt replace Simonson immediately. Why petition Leavitt? It is likely Leavitt will be more responsive than President Bush or even Congress. He wants a scandal-free campaign to prepare for a flu pandemic. Will you sign our petition to replace Simonson with somebody with expert credentials?

[link|http://political.moveon.org/flupandemic/?id=6115-4835072-xr_CimD808k6lo8FEuawuQ&t=3|http://political.mov...8k6lo8FEuawuQ&t=3]

The revelations about Simonson's lack of experience couldn't come at a more challenging time. On Saturday The New York Times reported that the nation is gravely unprepared for a flu pandemic after obtaining a draft of the HHS influenza plan. We have only 2 percent of the courses of antiviral treatments we'll need. The plan predicts a worst-case scenario in which nearly 2 million Americans would die and 8.5 million would be hospitalized. Costs would exceed $450 billion. Finally, the report says we need to expand vaccine manufacturing capacity by more than ten fold.

There are qualified people who could do this important job. Simonson replaced a genuine expert, Jerome Hauer, who had served as Director of Emergency Management for New York City and led the George Washington University Response to Emergencies and Disasters Institute.7

Many people are calling Simonson the "next Michael Brown" in reference to the lack of experience of the former FEMA director who botched the federal response to Hurricane Katrina. Congressman Henry Waxman (D-CA) released a fact sheet about cronyism in the Bush administration that blew the whistle on Simonson.8

The threat of an influenza pandemic is very serious. The 1918 flu pandemic is estimated to have killed 50 million people\ufffdthe largest numbers dying in just weeks. In the 1950s and 1960s smaller flu pandemics in the United States killed tens of thousands.9 Our government needs a serious response to this serious threat. Please act today.

Thanks for all you do.

New Run! Get out... umm... what about the subordinates?
A director who is clueless will damage any organisation but decisions are also made at the executive level. Provided the director level doesn't replace the executive level with similar idiots or actively block them. This begs the question: do clueless, US, political appointees wreck existing operations as well as fail to direct?
Matthew Greet


Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
New we are using the Soviet Model
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New Not familiar with that
Matthew Greet


Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
New here ya go, enjoy
[link|http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/central-katrina.html|http://www.lewrockwe...tral-katrina.html]
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New The subordinates are the problem
If the executive layer are incompetant and only looking out for their own hide, then the directors can't make much difference. Idiotic, political appointees are not the real problem. If the civil service is this wrecked, you should have ran and got out long ago.
Matthew Greet


Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
New The decline has been fast
Under Clinton the same bureaucracy worked well in disasters.

Then our MBA president decided that a reorg was in order. :-(

Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New So that article is a pack of lies. Oh, I'm surprised!
Run! Get out while you can! Before the US federal government suck out all state powers into federal commissions that are then wrecked by political appointees, then wiped out by chronic, federal debt, then resurrected by the corporations to sanction their plundering. Before various functions are run by the churches, destroying separation of church and state in all but name. Before the survivalist militias, white supremecists and the Mafia run riot because there is no nation or state-wide effort to stop them.
Matthew Greet


Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
New Umm.. let's not get Ahead of the Game, OK?
There remains a small -atheistic-or-Other/Wise- prayer that the Magic Correction Tool: [1] Impeachment, may yet be fired up.

I concede that this is a looonngg shot, given the present and smug anti-Intelligence milieu -- still (no Pollyanna, moi) -- it appears at least as likely as our stealing the Coronation Rite from youenses, just yet.

I could be Wrong; I often am, usually whenever I expect some semblance of sane activity in this foundering Wasteland.. as evidenced,

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."

"Most of our imports come from overseas."
--George W. Bush



(And, just *NOW* ... ..."We'll never give in until Total Victory")
See [1]

New Who says it is a pack of lies?
Bush's big reorganization was to integrate FEMA (which is just a couple of thousand people) into a far larger bureaucracy, which has a very different mission than FEMA did. That is, if centralized command structures are prone to fail, then FEMA under Homeland Security under Bush is far more failure-prone than FEMA under Clinton was.

This is also not to say that FEMA was idyllic under Clinton. For instance in 1999, Hurricane Floyd overwhelmed it. However it did it's primary job - coordinating people and groups who want to help - than the current incarnation appears to be.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Gads, that was depressing. Good, but depressing.
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New He spent a lot of time saying what was wrong.
But I didn't see a great deal saying what should be done instead. Hmm.

Wade.

edit: unmangle my language.
"Insert crowbar. Apply force."
Expand Edited by static Oct. 14, 2005, 12:05:02 AM EDT
New He made it clear what his alternate solution was
Private enterprise and free markets.

I disagree with his prescription (markets have different sets of failures), but I agree with his diagnosis of what's wrong with how things are being done now.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Expand Edited by ben_tilly Oct. 15, 2005, 04:43:46 AM EDT
New That was clear?
Yes, he mentioned it a few times. I kept expecting him to show why, but the one good example (WalMart) ended with a warning that the head of WalMart would fail as the head of FEMA for the same reasons the former head of FEMA did. That was strange. Mind you, he did seem to be focussing on what had been done wrong, not what should have been done instead.

Wade.
"Insert crowbar. Apply force."
New It was to me
Some quotes may illustrate why.

...you can\ufffdt command an economy...in the end, you can\ufffdt make the economy perform in a way that serves the people unless you let market forces work.

Not just the Soviets had to learn this. Authoritarian regimes from the beginning of time have attempted to defy the laws of economics, step on the interests of the merchant class, control and redirect the wishes of consumers and entrepreneurs, bend and kick prices and wages this way and that, and inhibit trade in every way. But they cannot finally overpower the driving desire on the part of people to control their own fate and not be subject to the slavery that is collectivism of all colors, whether red or brown.

...they have far less information than the body of knowledge generated by the signaling process of the market economy and the private sector.

This isn\ufffdt a matter of character. It is a matter of the maze in which you find yourself, with market-generated exit signs, or none at all, thanks to the government.

Just imagine if the town were private like your home or car. Insurance companies would have taken a huge role in risk assessment, not only charging more for higher risk but insisting on management strategies that reduce risk and rewarding those who adopt those strategies with better premiums. This works on the same principles as your homeowners\ufffd insurance, which combines rules and incentives to reduce the likelihood of losses.

I could go on, but I think that I've made my point - the whole article is laced with references to the idea that free markets do things better than governments, and government interference is always bad. Therefore it was obvious to me what his proposed alternate solution is.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Yup. Was clear in the 1st paragraph with ref to the Soviets.
New Are you now, then, agreeing with me?
Ashton will have a cow!
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Aggreeing with you on what?
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New You are assuming he agrees
that the economy should be unregulated - "you can't command the economy".

Agreeing with the enumeration of problems doesn't mean agreement with the prescription.

"Leeches and bleeding! The patient has too much blood!"
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
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Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Oh I know.
But it would create a stir ;-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New And that was a bad assumption
Particularly since in [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=229533|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=229533] I said that I don't agree with his prescription.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New *chuckle*
You "don't disagree"?
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
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Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New One of us made a sign error
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Both? Cancelling out?
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
]
Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Nope...
That was my snide way of pointing out that your "don't disagree" was the opposite of what I'd said.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New My "don't disagree?"
From the post you linked to:
"I don't disagree with his prescription (markets have different sets of failures), but I agree with his diagnosis"

The post you linked from said:
"I don't agree with his prescription"

Soooo... Which is it? Do you agree or disagree with his prescription?

*chuckle*
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
]
Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New D'oh, I know what I MEANT to write...
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Heehee
I know - and I READ it the way you meant it first time through, too - thats what I meant by "both? cancelling out?"...
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
]
Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
Expand Edited by imric Oct. 15, 2005, 10:52:43 AM EDT
New Well, and odd number of sign errors anyway
===

Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link|http://DocHope.com|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats].
[link|http://DocHope.com|http://DocHope.com]
New I must not be his target audience.
"Insert crowbar. Apply force."
New I guess I'm sensitive to the buzzwords he used.
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
     Influenza, anyone? - (Ashton) - (30)
         Run! Get out... umm... what about the subordinates? - (warmachine) - (29)
             we are using the Soviet Model -NT - (boxley) - (28)
                 Not familiar with that -NT - (warmachine) - (27)
                     here ya go, enjoy - (boxley) - (26)
                         The subordinates are the problem - (warmachine) - (4)
                             The decline has been fast - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                 So that article is a pack of lies. Oh, I'm surprised! - (warmachine) - (2)
                                     Umm.. let's not get Ahead of the Game, OK? - (Ashton)
                                     Who says it is a pack of lies? - (ben_tilly)
                         Gads, that was depressing. Good, but depressing. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (20)
                             He spent a lot of time saying what was wrong. - (static) - (19)
                                 He made it clear what his alternate solution was - (ben_tilly) - (18)
                                     That was clear? - (static) - (17)
                                         It was to me - (ben_tilly) - (16)
                                             Yup. Was clear in the 1st paragraph with ref to the Soviets. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                             Are you now, then, agreeing with me? - (bepatient) - (12)
                                                 Aggreeing with you on what? -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                 You are assuming he agrees - (imric) - (10)
                                                     Oh I know. - (bepatient)
                                                     And that was a bad assumption - (ben_tilly) - (8)
                                                         *chuckle* - (imric) - (7)
                                                             One of us made a sign error -NT - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                                                                 Both? Cancelling out? -NT - (imric) - (4)
                                                                     Nope... - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                                         My "don't disagree?" - (imric) - (2)
                                                                             D'oh, I know what I MEANT to write... -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                                                 Heehee - (imric)
                                                                 Well, and odd number of sign errors anyway -NT - (drewk)
                                             I must not be his target audience. -NT - (static) - (1)
                                                 I guess I'm sensitive to the buzzwords he used. -NT - (ben_tilly)

Wow. I am just. Wow. Un-. Wow. You'd think...Nah. Wow.
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