Post #228,798
10/9/05 7:34:17 PM
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Saab was a much later pickup
that why I didn't think about them, although it's true recently they have become much more integrated into GM (e.g. selling rebadged GM SUVs and Subarus).
And, for Thailand, it looks like it's mostly not Daewoos. Check out [link|http://www.gm.com/company/corp_info/global_operations/asia_pacific/thai.html|http://www.gm.com/co...pacific/thai.html]
Tony Whose favorite car in Thailand (not counting Tuk-tuk) is the Nissan Wingroad.
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Post #228,952
10/10/05 3:41:36 PM
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Pity about that - I loved Saabs
but dislike GM. Hope is GM doesn't monkey with a good thing. But I'm not holding out that hope.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #229,045
10/11/05 7:51:32 AM
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Nope, don't hold out.
Behold [link|http://www.azcentral.com/class/marketplace/cars/0612wheels12saabintro.html|the Saabaru].
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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Post #229,052
10/11/05 8:45:00 AM
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Soon to be the Subayota?
[link|http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/06/business/06place.html|General Motors Plans to Sell Its Stake in Subaru's Parent]. The Fuji sale will complicate plans for Saab. One of Saab's five models, the Saab 9-2x, is essentially a Subaru made over to look like a Saab, though it is not a big seller. G.M. had planned to develop a Saab version of Subaru's B9 Tribeca, a seven-passenger vehicle known as a crossover because it combines elements of an S.U.V. and a car. The vehicle had been anticipated by Saab dealers.
"We at Saab are looking for a seven-passenger vehicle, and that was a seven-passenger vehicle," said Steve Coleman, the owner of Saab of Santa Ana in California and a member of Saab's national council of dealers. Mr. Coleman said he found out about the sale in a conference call that G.M. had with the council.
Tom Beaman, a spokesman for Saab, said the company would still find a way to develop a seven-passenger crossover vehicle.
"Saab is extremely important to G.M. because it is our only premium European brand," he said, adding that it brought customers "into G.M. who we otherwise wouldn't have."
A Toyota executive said his company would develop and produce vehicles with Subaru, which could provide some measure of help to Toyota in reaching its American sales goals. At a news conference in Japan, Mitsuo Kinoshita, a Toyota executive vice president, said his company would also use Fuji's "various advanced technologies." Cheers, Scott.
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Post #229,101
10/11/05 12:20:35 PM
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Ick
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #229,116
10/11/05 1:43:02 PM
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You might say ick...
...but the [link|http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/impreza_wrx_sti.asp|WRX] is an awesome little auto.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #229,427
10/13/05 4:29:30 AM
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Has become a chav-chariot over here.
Pity, really; superb handling and performance, only slightly marred by being really rather ugly. The chav upgrade of choice on these things is a stupid fart-cannon of an exhaust.
Peter [link|http://www.no2id.net/|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal] [link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
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Post #229,223
10/11/05 10:21:19 PM
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Makes me sorta glad...
... that we've stuck with such Aussie brands as Mitsubishi (my Lancer) and Nissan (wife's X-Trail). Er, hang on... ;-P
Wade.
d-_-b
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Post #229,142
10/11/05 4:32:55 PM
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'Saab' is dead
At least re any remote association with.. the basically 'aircraft engineers' who began with that 3 cyl. 2-stroke engined critter, parlayed it into the Monte Carlos (still ugly but bloody Functional) and to the more conventional looking ('69) 99 models and their derivatives. Swedish engineers Loved 'Us' (as breathing creatures, that is) - and it showed in many engr. qualities.
(I owned 5 Saabs; last a '77 GL == along with Volvo that year: the first production cars with the Lambda-Sond emissions controls as are now universal. That system had never needed a single part replaced, either -- when I gave it away in '01.) It still runs, but now has a bum ignition switch as is non-trivial to fix - part of anti-theft, etc.. Its fate is unclear at this point - being a State away.
My local Expert (aircraft mechanic + Saab) informs me of the creeping.. = now galloping GMism / inaccessibility for repairs and the like. Seems to moi just an echo of embrace, extend, extinguish. Loose a Billy-virus and .. ..
GM engineers? - OK their boss-MBAs natch, some still snot-nosed: love Balance Sheets and corner offices and demographics. (But still can't get the formula right.) I'd take a new Saab as a gift, of course.
Then sell it.
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Post #229,428
10/13/05 4:30:18 AM
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Saab 93 == Vauxhall Vectra
And that's NOT a good thing.
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Post #229,430
10/13/05 4:45:46 AM
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(As pointed out in post #228758.)
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