Post #226,525
9/26/05 11:30:10 AM
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You're judging them wrong
Their products are very good at doing what they want them to do. Whether they do what you want them to do is entirely incidental.
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Post #226,542
9/26/05 1:01:58 PM
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Amen.
There's a guy I knew there named [link|http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/|Raymond Chen]. Total and complete asshole. If he found a bug in your department's product, he'd check out the source, write up a fix, then send the fix, diffs, and an all staff e-mail indicating what a bunch of idiots everybody in your department was for missing something as simple as what he had fixed.
I actually worked IN his department for 4 months - not something I'd want to do again. OTOH, I watched this guy read a debug stream from Wordperfect in RAW HEX and figure out exactly where a nasty compatability issue with a prebuild of Win2k was cropping up. He was most definitely NOT stupid, and he definitely had some skills.
(He was also a completely amoral antisocial git, but that goes without saying at Microsoft.)
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Post #226,544
9/26/05 1:09:54 PM
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ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #226543 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=226543|ICLRPD]
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Post #227,262
9/30/05 7:25:38 AM
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Re: Amen.
(He was also a completely amoral antisocial git, but that goes without saying at Microsoft.) Hey, you worked there. Oh, wait...
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Post #227,306
9/30/05 10:54:08 AM
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He was an employee. I never was.
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Post #226,563
9/26/05 3:00:01 PM
9/26/05 3:00:49 PM
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Point taken! ;-)
Still, what did they want BOB to do?!? Enquiring minds want to know...
jb4
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Edited by jb4
Sept. 26, 2005, 03:00:49 PM EDT
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Post #226,567
9/26/05 3:09:45 PM
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Get BillG laid, that's what.
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Post #226,568
9/26/05 3:14:09 PM
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Maybe they should have written Microsoft Babe
give him something to practice on.
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"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
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Post #226,588
9/26/05 5:27:13 PM
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Um, Inthane is right. And it worked.
If you don't have a clue what we're talking about, who was in charge of Microsoft Bob?
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #226,589
9/26/05 5:31:45 PM
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Ohhhhhhhhhh.
I didn't realize that was the angle.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #226,797
9/27/05 6:10:41 PM
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So lemme get this straight...
..BOB was the software equivalent of a blow-up doll?!?
Suh-weeet! Why am I not surprised? Screwed all of us, dinit?
jb4
shrub●bish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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