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Post #22,610
by hnick
12/28/01 1:56:16 PM
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New Re: Some find the suspension of the Republic interesting
The fact that the USA is currently being run by a de-facto leader whose cronies managed to prevent a clean election is not something to "get over".
Actually, it probably is. Whatever tags, slogans, invective you use, he's still in. The process, fucked as it is, will not be reversed at this point. We, as a country are not going to go to all the other countries we have dealings with, and say "Ah... we just learned how to count, so you've been talking to the wrong dufus... you need to pay off the other dufus now...".
What we can do, is try not to allow this to happen again. I agree with your points about the behavior or the judiciary and the current government. I agree that they need fixing. Badly. Arbitrarily replacing the current dufus is not going to do it. We've lived with inferior presidents before, and will again. We need to get back to a system that the people can trust.
If it can be shown that Bush was involved in something illegal to get elected, than by all means, throw the bum out. It's been done before. If he hasn't done anything but play the game as it is played today, then get over the dufus and fix the game.

just .02
Hugh
Post #22,612
by mmoffitt
12/28/01 2:00:07 PM
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New The danger is ...
with the way the recount was reported by the corporate owned McNews (ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and most print media). My problem is that the Recount didn't show what the medja said it showed. They didn't like the outcome, so they changed the question. The reporting might lead some, perhaps many, to conclude that "the system did work after all". It clearly didn't, and that's not something we should forget. If we do, then we deserve what we get.
Post #22,614
by hnick
12/28/01 2:19:28 PM
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New Understood and agreed...
particularly about deserving what we get if we forget about this.
All of it should be remembered and considered while figuring out how to come up with a trustworthy means of voting. Chads, gerrymandering, local law enforcement, federal judiciary, the lot. The end result should be a better means of voting. I'm all for it. I'm all for discussion of the same. I may throw up if there is more crap about going over old ballots again to redeem the last election. That is over.

-H
Post #22,613
by Simon_Jester
12/28/01 2:13:30 PM
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New Interesting...

... then get over the dufus and fix the game.


Would you PLEASE tell others that. Damn, Clinton is OUT of office and idiots are STILL going on about him.
Post #22,617
by hnick
12/28/01 2:24:26 PM
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New The operative word
is "idiots" :)

-H
     Is it Okay to talk about the Recount yet? - (mmoffitt) - (46) - Dec. 28, 2001, 10:18:46 AM EST
         No. It's over. - (hnick) - (39) - Dec. 28, 2001, 11:17:56 AM EST
             And you should especially avoid that type of analysis - (Ric Locke) - (2) - Dec. 28, 2001, 11:37:55 AM EST
                 Thought I said that... -msg -NT - (hnick) - (1) - Dec. 28, 2001, 11:48:17 AM EST
                     You did. Just weary of circumlocutions. -NT - (Ric Locke) - Dec. 28, 2001, 02:46:23 PM EST
             Some find the suspension of the Republic interesting - (mhuber) - (34) - Dec. 28, 2001, 12:55:59 PM EST
                 Re: Some find the suspension of the Republic interesting - (hnick) - (4) - Dec. 28, 2001, 01:56:16 PM EST
                     The danger is ... - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Dec. 28, 2001, 02:00:07 PM EST
                         Understood and agreed... - (hnick) - Dec. 28, 2001, 02:19:28 PM EST
                     Interesting... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Dec. 28, 2001, 02:13:30 PM EST
                         The operative word - (hnick) - Dec. 28, 2001, 02:24:26 PM EST
                 Republic not suspended. Film at 11. - (Ric Locke) - (28) - Dec. 28, 2001, 02:44:20 PM EST
                     And there you have it. - (bepatient) - (14) - Dec. 28, 2001, 03:21:07 PM EST
                         Correct != right? In a democracy? - (mmoffitt) - (13) - Jan. 2, 2002, 07:23:49 PM EST
                             In a democracy... - (bepatient) - (12) - Jan. 2, 2002, 11:40:17 PM EST
                                 Ack. - (mmoffitt) - (11) - Jan. 3, 2002, 09:32:31 AM EST
                                     However... - (bepatient) - (10) - Jan. 3, 2002, 11:32:26 AM EST
                                         I see that "however" and raise you a "but" - (Silverlock) - (9) - Jan. 3, 2002, 11:43:23 AM EST
                                             Can I get an Amen on that one!! -NT - (bepatient) - Jan. 3, 2002, 11:44:15 AM EST
                                             excuse me?? - (Simon_Jester) - (5) - Jan. 3, 2002, 12:14:36 PM EST
                                                 You're excused - (Silverlock) - (4) - Jan. 3, 2002, 12:20:35 PM EST
                                                     Thought I understood it... - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - Jan. 3, 2002, 02:55:24 PM EST
                                                         No backup - (Silverlock) - (1) - Jan. 3, 2002, 03:10:29 PM EST
                                                             the historically corrupt phrase - (boxley) - Jan. 3, 2002, 05:05:36 PM EST
                                                     A coupla other data points: - (jb4) - Jan. 4, 2002, 09:10:11 AM EST
                                             Well I guess florida has been a state longer - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 3, 2002, 01:13:59 PM EST
                                                 You missed a big one in the South. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 3, 2002, 01:20:20 PM EST
                     Out of curiousity... - (Simon_Jester) - (5) - Dec. 28, 2001, 03:27:29 PM EST
                         Check California, Illinois, and New York - (Ric Locke) - (4) - Dec. 28, 2001, 03:44:20 PM EST
                             No offense...but you're raising strawmen left and right. - (Simon_Jester) - (3) - Dec. 28, 2001, 04:32:26 PM EST
                                 No strawmen here -- willow twigs exclusively - (Ric Locke) - (2) - Dec. 28, 2001, 07:52:36 PM EST
                                     Cute twig - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Dec. 28, 2001, 10:33:17 PM EST
                                         And it was a dahling sprig, too - (Ric Locke) - Dec. 29, 2001, 12:08:43 AM EST
                     You presume too much - (mhuber) - (6) - Dec. 28, 2001, 06:54:25 PM EST
                         Presume? I'm watching things happen. - (Ric Locke) - (5) - Dec. 28, 2001, 08:11:00 PM EST
                             You might want to work on the OCR system.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Dec. 28, 2001, 10:41:13 PM EST
                                 Nothing is infallible - (Ric Locke) - Dec. 29, 2001, 12:05:32 AM EST
                             One obscure recount method: - (mhuber) - (2) - Dec. 29, 2001, 09:16:34 PM EST
                                 beg to slightly differ - (boxley) - Dec. 29, 2001, 11:48:12 PM EST
                                 Amen. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 2, 2002, 06:56:11 PM EST
             Got an idea for a new forum: Undead Horses. - (marlowe) - Dec. 28, 2001, 01:22:42 PM EST
         There should be a new law on this - (nking) - (5) - Dec. 28, 2001, 03:01:06 PM EST
             What a free-for-all that would be - (Ric Locke) - Dec. 28, 2001, 03:31:49 PM EST
             current law is just fine - (boxley) - (3) - Dec. 28, 2001, 07:37:48 PM EST
                 The courts should have stayed out - (nking) - Dec. 28, 2001, 07:39:08 PM EST
                 actually, I'm not sure that is possible... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Dec. 28, 2001, 10:41:52 PM EST
                     one more time - (boxley) - Dec. 28, 2001, 10:53:42 PM EST

Here, have another hor'd'ouevre.
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