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New I think Barry's perspective is not entirely typical of IT
He works with a very specific mission: "Do exactly this: better, faster, cheaper." Sure, there is room for creativity in how you get there. But I suspect Barry is entirely uninterested in trying out some cool new thing, or trying to revolutionize his company's core business model.

This is fairly different from other places I've worked, where those in IT think they have the Next Big ThingTM. Or at least think that IT is still an inherently creative discipline, not subject to the same rigid processes as boring things like logistics. Rational adults know that unless your business is software, business needs should dictate the direction of development, not the other way around.

Now take your average 40-something IT director with fond memories of writing BASIC on a Commodore 64. He may have been the first "computer guy" when his company started bringing in computers in the late 80s. His primary qualification is that he's been around longer that anyone else in the department and knows how it all (almost) works. Now he has a budget and hiring authority.



Barry's process works for him because he does know what he wants out of an employee. I haven't seen much evidence that that's a common trait.
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New I recently was able to hire someone...
I took him to lunch as the interview, part 1.

I then was able to question and test him on his knowledge, Part 2. (you know how fun that would be when I am asking the questions I already know the 16 possible answers too)

Part 3, allowed me to see how quickly he learned, if at all.

One note about Part 3, it was the really important part to me. If he can't learn, *I* don't want him.
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     Interview WTFs - (pwhysall) - (48)
         My very first interview - (imqwerky)
         Mozilla Localization Project? -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1)
             It's a K5ism. Mindless Link Propagation. -NT - (pwhysall)
         'One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest' lives___if that's 'alive' - (Ashton) - (44)
             Consider the other side for a bit - (broomberg) - (41)
                 A pretty comprehensive description of, - (Ashton) - (40)
                     I think Barry's perspective is not entirely typical of IT - (drewk) - (1)
                         I recently was able to hire someone... - (folkert)
                     Can't do it your way - (broomberg) - (37)
                         Seconded - (ben_tilly)
                         I get All that, and - - (Ashton)
                         That may be most important, IMO - (imric) - (34)
                             Sounds like time for a "team building" retreat - (imqwerky) - (33)
                                 You'd think so... - (imric)
                                 I disagree strongly - (ben_tilly) - (31)
                                     Gee! - (jb4) - (30)
                                         It doesn't - (ben_tilly) - (29)
                                             Expand? - (Ashton) - (5)
                                                 Kerberos was easy - (drewk)
                                                 Put it this way - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                     OK I can appreciate certain aspects; always with reservation - (Ashton)
                                                     Better because of dirty tricks - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                                                         You need to remember - (tuberculosis)
                                             Not since 1986 they havent! - (jb4) - (22)
                                                 You're judging them wrong - (drewk) - (10)
                                                     Amen. - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                                                         ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                                                         Re: Amen. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                             He was an employee. I never was. -NT - (inthane-chan)
                                                     Point taken! ;-) - (jb4) - (5)
                                                         Get BillG laid, that's what. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                                                             Maybe they should have written Microsoft Babe - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                                 Um, Inthane is right. And it worked. - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                                     Ohhhhhhhhhh. - (tuberculosis)
                                                             So lemme get this straight... - (jb4)
                                                 nt 3.5.1 dam fine OS, NT4 is where they screwed the pooch - (boxley) - (10)
                                                     Beg to differ! - (jb4)
                                                     Wasn't that the last NT to pass the Orange book (whatever) - (Ashton) - (8)
                                                         Not by my recollection - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                             Ah so - it remains ephemeral er, 'inferential'. -NT - (Ashton)
                                                             On only certain hardware. - (folkert) - (1)
                                                                 Right -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                         Honcho == Dave Cutler (ex of DEC) - (jb4) - (3)
                                                             Sounds like how Disney does business... -NT - (static) - (2)
                                                                 My theory, like the 'single electron' one - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                     The Heisenberg Talented Engineer theory... -NT - (jb4)
             It's a WTF, all right. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 {snorfle} - and a perfect illustration that - - (Ashton)

Ramble on.
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