Yes, it's Java's fault.

Post #224,460 by Another Scott 9/12/05 4:51:45 PM Reply	Yes, it's Java's fault. I'll bet some of you just knew that Java had something to do with it, didn't you... The computer with the slowdown issues is on an APC UPS. It uses Java software to control the graceful shutdown. Guess what? APC's Java Runtime Certificate expired on July 27, 2005 for this version of the software. Bottom line, if you're running APC's PowerChute Business Edition software v6.x, you need to upgrade to the latest version (7.0.4). More [link\|http://nam-en.apc.com/cgi-bin/nam_en.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=7202\|here]. Of course, I was 90% through reinstalling and reconfiguring things before I found this out... :-( HTH someone else out there. Cheers, Scott.
Post #224,470 by Andrew Grygus 9/12/05 5:20:08 PM Reply	And it gets worse Yup, just had this problem at a client on their Exchange server. Took half an hour for the login process, then many things were slooooooooooooooow. I identified the problem from an internet search and disabled the APC service and everything worked fine on reboot. So I set about deinstalling the APC software. During the deinstall it TWICE shut off power to the servers, BANG! (this was a BIG unit with three small servers on it), then turned it right back on. The sudden shutdowns damaged the Oracle database for their main MRP/Accounting software requiring thousands of dollars expense and downtime to put them back in business. Fortunately their in-house support guy was watching over my sholder when the UPS shut off power so I didn't get blamed for doing something wrong. Anyway, I have even less warm fuzzys about APC than I did before. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #224,473 by Another Scott 9/12/05 5:28:52 PM Reply	:-(
Post #224,486 by Andrew Grygus 9/12/05 6:12:01 PM Reply	Well, it wasn't all bad for me. A year ago their $16,000 Dell horked the RAID array on the second channel causing "significant data problems". I tossed together a little Athlon box with two 80-Gig drives in a couple of hours and the software guy flew out from Florida to get them back up. They've been running on that temp server ever since. I built them a dual Xeon with two RAID arrays, redundant power and the works. Big box on wheels. It sat in my living room for nearly a year because I knew what a hassle it would be dealing with the software vendor. Since stuff had to be rebuilt anyway it was a perfect time to deliver that server and get the system up on it. Finally got to invoice that sucker. Of course it runs circles around that Dell for 1/3 the price. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #224,503 by static 9/12/05 9:36:02 PM Reply	I worked with APC's UPS software briefly. The one thing that I objected most to was that it assumes the server it's installed on is on the UPS it's controlling. That just ain't necessarily so... Wade. d-_-b
Post #224,478 by drewk 9/12/05 5:53:06 PM Reply	Can you spell "DRM"? Sure, I knew you could. What happens when APC goes out of business? All their stuff is time-bombed. Doesn't matter how perfect it may be, if it can't find a valid certificate anywhere you're screwed. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #224,504 by broomberg 9/12/05 9:42:23 PM Reply	Open source APC drivers work fine on Linux. Much better then the "real" ones.

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