One thing I noted later

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Post #22,348

by tjsinclair

12/23/01 6:44:57 PM

One thing I noted later

was the fact that passengers and crew subdued the man, rather than just going along.

This is a good trend.

Tom Sinclair
Speaker-to-Suits

He was aware that a wise man should always respect the folkways of others,
to use Carrot's happy phrase, but Vimes often had difficulty with this
idea. For one thing, there were people in the world whose folkways
consisted of gutting other people like clams and this was not a procedure
that commanded, in Vimes, any kind of respect at all.
-- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant)

Post #22,349

by kmself

12/23/01 7:32:28 PM

Response, more than prophylaxis

The airport security is likely helping a bit. But I'd also noted that it was the response protocol rather than the on-ground, pre-flight, preventive measures, which seemed to catch and stop this guy. Kudos to the flight attendant and passengers.

IMO, disarming all passengers is counterproductive. In this case, bodymass and a dozen or so men seemed to do the trick. But a couple of PR-18s might have come in handy.

For those unfamiliar with the term, "PR-18: public-relations 18 inch", aka, nightstick.

-- Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?

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