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New We can.
But it takes time.

The DOD's [link|http://www.pentagon.mil/home/features/2005/katrina/index.html|Katrina] page has info on what they're doing.

Cheers,
Scott.
New They've had 5 days pre hurricane notice
to be ready and the hurricane was 4 days ago.

How much time do they need?

Also, what I see on the website doesn't much match what the reporters in the field are seeing and they are pissed.

I reckon this little episode is going to be the death of republican dominance as people begin to see what their government is (NOT) doing for them induces a regime change.



"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:08:42 AM EDT
New If I had a dime
For every time I thought the Pubs had finally been exposed as so morally corrupt that the sheeple would be forced to awaken to their self-suppression, I'd, well.. I'd be one of the \ufffdber-wealthy 1%.

thanks
mx.

ps. Not that I don't hope beyond hope w/ each new f*ck-up.
"I'm man enough to tell you that I can't put my finger on
exactly what my philosophy is now, but I'm flexible."
-- Malcolm X
New And if they had a dime for every time the sheeple...
didn't react, they'd be rich!

Waitaminute. They do, and they are.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New They're not doing *that* badly - comparable to Andrew.
[link|http://www.ndu.edu/library/ic6/93S49.pdf|Lt. Col. Mangual Report] (43 page .pdf):

p.18 of the .pdf
Four days after Hurricane Andrew's assault on Southern Florida, the largest-ever peacetime military operation began. The cleanup operation involved over 24,000 U.S. Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Canadian Forces deployed to Florida in the largest peacetime CONUS deployment ever.


The Katrina came ashore near New Orleans on Monday August 29 - 3.5 days ago. I've heard mention of 30,000 NG troops committed so far, IIRC.

It takes time to decide what needs to be done by whom and in what order. Everyone rushing in without sufficient planning only makes things worse. (Note that I'm not arguing that things can't and shouldn't be improved.)

Also, what I see on the website doesn't much match what the reporters in the field are seeing and they are pissed.

Yeah, well one has to expect a bit of rah-rah from an official DOD site. I try to separate the facts from the presentation when reading things like that. It's hard to know how much of the annecdotal stuff is representative. I'm sure it's terrible down there - we just don't to what extent the reports of looting, shootings, etc., are a reflection of the overall situation.

We'll know more in a few days. :-(

Cheers,
Scott.
New But I want to know now!
Lotsa pissed off people. But I can't help but think that we have expectations that somehow a regional disaster of this magnitude will be resolved in a matter of minutes or days. Within a week or two, we'll probably still be talking about these early days and our perceptions will be coloured, but the longer term challenge will be even more daunting.

As an aside, Amy says the talk at the PTA meeting tonight was of an influx of 10,000 kids into our Richardson school district. Amy and I are mulling over our own personal response at the moment. No way an individual(s) can approach anything amounting to a solution. But just worrying by itself seems to be counter-productive.
New I'm sure it'll be challenging for a long time. :-( Luck!
New The response to charlie in Florida was much faster
All places not devastated had trucks loaded with food and water heading inbound immediately. Now I agree the population of New Orleans is a lot larger but biloxi is a close example, and according to NPR the first food they have had in 4 days is being supplied by the salvation army, cornflakes and juice, chicken nugget with gravy, that is pathetic.
thanx,
bill
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     So I wanna know how come we can bomb MRE's to Afghanistan - (tuberculosis) - (8)
         We can. - (Another Scott) - (7)
             They've had 5 days pre hurricane notice - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                 If I had a dime - (xtensive) - (1)
                     And if they had a dime for every time the sheeple... - (ben_tilly)
                 They're not doing *that* badly - comparable to Andrew. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                     But I want to know now! - (ChrisR) - (1)
                         I'm sure it'll be challenging for a long time. :-( Luck! -NT - (Another Scott)
             The response to charlie in Florida was much faster - (boxley)

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