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Post #2,223
by tuberculosis
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7/18/01 1:53:58 PM
8/21/07 6:36:47 AM
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New Online story link
[link|http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2790355,00.html?chkpt=zdnn_tp_|Another writeup online].

I'm not too surpised. I was always actually rather surprised that they ever provided any support for Java at all. After all, its a technology designed to hurt MS.
Post #2,231
by Andrew Grygus
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7/18/01 2:39:54 PM
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New Not so.
"After all, its a technology designed to hurt MS."

Java is a technology designed to be widely useful. The fact that it hurts Microsoft is strictly incidental. Further, it wouldn't hurt Microsoft either if they were not an abusive monopoly.

The ZDNet article is written from Microsoft press releases and does not bring up the monopoly problem. It's pretty certain Sun will jump on any anti-trust charges they can find and getting an injunction on XP would really give them a thrill.
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Post #2,233
by SpiceWare
7/18/01 2:53:13 PM
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New actually, I'd say
The fact that it hurts Microsoft is an added bonus :-)

Darrell Spice, Jr.

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Post #2,260
by orion
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7/18/01 6:01:15 PM
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New The Java Jive
Java was not designed to hurt anybody, it is just a side-effect that it hurts Microsoft because it allows programs to be run on any platform that supports Java and the JVM.

I wonder if Microsoft put C# into XP if it would do anything? They cannot put in Java, and C# isn't Java, but can compete with it. Remember when BASIC was part of the OS (or ROM as the case may or may not have been?) and almost everyone who was into Microcomputers knew some form of BASIC?

Ah now, if only Microsoft could make IE optional to XP, and have it so that if you try to access a web page, it asks you if you want to download it? :) Or better still, it asks you if you want to download another browser instead? Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, etc. ;)
"I can see if I want anything done right around here, I'll have to do it myself!"Moe Howard
     Monopoly fallout - No Java in WinXP - (Andrew Grygus) - (16) - July 18, 2001, 11:51:35 AM EDT
         Online story link - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:36:47 AM EDT
             Not so. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - July 18, 2001, 02:39:54 PM EDT
                 actually, I'd say - (SpiceWare) - July 18, 2001, 02:53:13 PM EDT
                 The Java Jive - (orion) - July 18, 2001, 06:01:15 PM EDT
         This move will propel Java like never before. - (brettj) - (10) - July 19, 2001, 10:48:19 AM EDT
             Way, way overly optomistic. - (Andrew Grygus) - (9) - July 19, 2001, 12:06:29 PM EDT
                 Won't site administrators be able to warn IE users of this? - (brettj) - (4) - July 19, 2001, 12:24:55 PM EDT
                     Already possible - (Fearless Freep) - July 19, 2001, 02:04:33 PM EDT
                     Already possible - (Fearless Freep) - (1) - July 19, 2001, 02:04:34 PM EDT
                         I might stand corrected, then. - (addison) - July 19, 2001, 02:19:55 PM EDT
                     Not really. - (addison) - July 19, 2001, 02:04:55 PM EDT
                 One comment. - (inthane-chan) - July 19, 2001, 01:43:20 PM EDT
                 ZD Net's take on the Java news - (brettj) - (1) - July 19, 2001, 06:21:23 PM EDT
                     Re: Another view on MS's actions - (dmarker2) - July 19, 2001, 08:39:27 PM EDT
                 Not if Sun plays it's card right - (Don) - July 20, 2001, 12:20:31 PM EDT
         2 new articles. A call to arms goes out. - (brettj) - July 21, 2001, 11:44:03 AM EDT

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