Post #222,172
9/1/05 10:36:30 AM
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How bad is it in New Orleans?
[link|http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/|http://www.livejourn...sers/interdictor/] Security has become a major concern now, because the NOPD is ineffective and the looters terrorists are roaming the streets. Word is now that they're lighting buildings on fire, but I can't confirm that. Anyway, we have to run guard shifts and patrol and it limits our downtime.
It is a zoo out there though, make no mistake. It's the wild kingdom. It's Lord of the Flies. That doesn't mean there's murder on every street corner. But what it does mean is that the rule of law has collapsed, that there is no order, and that property rights cannot and are not being enforced. Anyone who is on the streets is in immediate danger of being robbed and killed. It's that bad. Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #222,174
9/1/05 10:44:27 AM
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link it up next to News Picks, some serious problems wr NOPD
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
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Post #222,202
9/1/05 12:10:18 PM
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I call well-done fake, meself.
Peter
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Post #222,220
9/1/05 1:06:44 PM
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explain please, others reporting same
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
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Post #222,224
9/1/05 1:30:48 PM
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Many corroborations
Seems the blogsphere is picking it up all over the place.
Why to you claim fake?
This city has a huge population of rich and poor people. The poor have simmered for years. And they often consider anyone moderately middle class (has house, vehicle, and a steady job) as rich. People on this board have posted in that manner!
So anyway, the rich are gone, the police are gone, time for fun. The only chance in their life to fulfill their dreams. Go gather as much valuables as possible, and kill anyone who gets in their way.
Which then translates into kill people currently holding the valuables and take them.
Remember, 10% (number pulled out of my ass, will not bother to defend) of the population qualify as sociopaths. While only a small percentage of that become violent, the odds just got upped tremendously with a large percentage of the popluation gone, the remaining either too stupid or crazy to leave.
And then throw in the remaining homeowners who are serious about protecting their stuff. Shoot to kill just became the norm.
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Post #222,229
9/1/05 1:51:10 PM
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Things do seem to be deteriorating pretty rapidly.
The corvette story sounded real enough to me. [link|http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Hurricane-Katrina.html?hp&ex=1125633600&en=ac444ff206b4e17b&ei=5094&partner=homepage|NY Times]: ''Hospitals are trying to evacuate,'' said Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan, spokesman at the city emergency operations center. ''At every one of them, there are reports that as the helicopters come in people are shooting at them. There are people just taking potshots at police and at helicopters, telling them, ''You better come get my family.
Police Capt. Ernie Demmo said a National Guard military policeman was shot in the leg as the two scuffled for the MP's rifle. The man was arrested.
''These are good people. These are just scared people,'' Demmo said.
The Superdome, where some 25,000 people were being evacuated by bus to the Houston Astrodome, descended into chaos.
Huge crowds, hoping to finally escape the stifling confines of the stadium, jammed the main concourse outside the dome, spilling out over the ramp to the Hyatt hotel next door -- a seething sea of tense, unhappy, people packed shoulder-to-shoulder up to the barricades where heavily armed National Guardsmen stood.
Fights broke out. A fire erupted in a trash chute inside the dome, but a National Guard commander said it did not affect the evacuation. After a traffic jam kept buses from arriving at the Sueprdome for nearly four hours, a near riot broke out in the scramble to get on the buses that finally did show up. And so forth. They need to get more police and/or guard people in there quickly, and get everyone out of the city, or there's going to be an even worse situation. :-( Cheers, Scott.
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Post #222,411
9/2/05 2:35:53 AM
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fake this
[link|http://www.nola.com/hurricane/photos/|Hope is the thing with feathers ]
Have fun,
Carl Forde
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Post #222,430
9/2/05 8:53:08 AM
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Great site. Thanks.
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Post #222,439
9/2/05 9:33:54 AM
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Re: fake this
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=222432|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=222432]
Peter
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Post #222,238
9/1/05 2:13:10 PM
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(Modestly OT): wlbt.com has best video of damage.
The only problem is that it *requires* Windows Media Player. I hate sites that do that.
bcnu,
Mikem
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Post #222,243
9/1/05 2:49:48 PM
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Reminds me of...
A scene in "Ghostbuster II" where Egon is doing a study on a couple who are arguing. The temperature level was steadily increased to see if it had any effect on the situation. Of course, it was funny, but only because it was so perverse.
The whole situation in the Superdome can be boiled down (ha ha) to simple physics:
An increase in temperature is directly related to an increase in pressure when exerted on a finite volume in an enclosed space. What you end up with is a volatile force that must be released.
(It has been awhile since I used my "Physics Muscle (tm)", but I'm pretty sure I am correct with the above equation.)
IOW, the poor bastids cain't help themselves until the A/C gets fixed.
FWIW.
Peace,
Amy
"Losing your mind is like losing your keys. You have to retrace your steps to find out where you left them. But the bonus is that you usually find loose change in the cushions." ABR '05 :-D
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Post #222,246
9/1/05 2:54:59 PM
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Mob mentality works in different directions
One mob says that we are getting no help, so we'll loot and enforce our own sense of justice. An equal mob develops a sense of fear and anxiety about what they left behind. Both sides are paranoid.
Personally, I think the news coverage of very large events, like wars and large scale disasters, are nothing more than rumour mongering. I'd venture a guess to say that the damage inflicted by man-on-man pales in comparison to the beating inflicted by the inclement weather.
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Post #222,291
9/1/05 5:21:51 PM
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The big picture...
...[link|http://news.com.com/2300-1028_3-5845671-1.html?part=rss&tag=5845671&subj=news|before and after satellite images]. Looks much bluer and greener.
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Post #222,322
9/1/05 6:20:36 PM
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The great big after picture.
The [link|http://www.digitalglobe.com/images/katrina/new_orleans_msi_aug31_2005_dg.jpg|after] picture is at [link|http://www.digitalglobe.com/sample_imagery.shtml|Digital Globe]. It's 4062x4544 (3.3 MB), from yesterday. Zoom in and see all the water. :-(
[link|http://earth.google.com/|GoogleEarth] has some wonderful high-resolution before imagery as well.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #222,372
9/1/05 9:41:40 PM
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Looks like the tsunami aftermath.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #222,524
9/2/05 7:43:05 PM
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'500K Job Loss' == That 'Bad'__just prelim. est. too
Heard en passant on NPR, via some wonk at the Murican Enterprise Inst.
The Great Unravelling, indeed.
(Maybe, in the lingo of cyber-formatted jelloware)
Methinks 'threaded' captures the flavour -
of an organism backtracking across a nexus,
nibbling out key neurons
as it grows fatter,
nastier, thus:
more Repo-like.
Freebie added emblematic twit:
for all the demagogues what built the 'thread'
-- with Microsoft-Grade 'Security' ?
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Post #222,529
9/2/05 9:11:07 PM
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well construction jobs in the south are going to swell
at davis bacon wages, thats actually good for the workers. Wage increase.
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
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Post #222,701
9/4/05 2:24:05 AM
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False boom.
That money isn't going to come out of nowhere - the reconstruction cash will be taken away from other economic opportunities.
apt-get install godlike-powers
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