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Post #22,181 by bepatient 12/20/01 11:59:11 PM Reply	Welcome to the world another Linux Machine spank Into the world springs a new redhat box (sorry Karsten...maybe debian later) woohoo You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #22,464 by wharris2 12/26/01 11:29:25 PM Reply	muttering about parenting in remaining vacation time "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
Post #22,682 by imric 12/29/01 2:27:53 PM 12/29/01 2:29:42 PM Reply	It's a boom! A buddy of mine just gave me a Thinkpad 390x - so it's now RH7.2 / Win2000. I used RH because I hadn't seen 7.2 yet. Hey, Karsten, is there a way to turn a base RH distro into an apt-get-able (and eventually completely debian grin) system? Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win. Edited by imric Dec. 29, 2001, 02:29:42 PM EST Expand All History
Post #22,697 by static 12/29/01 11:30:09 PM Reply	I can answer that one. And the answer is: not easily. Theoretically, you could do it by installing one on top of the other, letting the two package databases co-exist side-by-side. In practice, you would have a devil's own time matching up versions and dependencies satisfactorily, coupled with the fact that there are key system files the two distros do differently - sometimes quite differently. OTOH, I think Karsten did once chronicle installing a distro using chroot in some fashion in preparation for switching over to it... Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #22,706 by imric 12/30/01 9:38:50 AM Reply	Bummer (see my reply to Karsten).... Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
Post #22,703 by kmself 12/30/01 2:33:14 AM Reply	Right-grading RH => Debian You can install multiple package managers on a single system, but it's not recommended. As Wade suggested, I'd converted my RH system to Debian under a chroot shell. I'd rebooted to start off the installation, on a partition cleared off for the purpose. Once the base system was installed, I booted back to RH, and did: `$ cd /debian-root $ chroot . ./bin/bash` ...which gave me a root shell under the Debian system. Install and configure additional packages. When things were sufficiently advanced, test out booting Debian. When you're happy, boot Debian and migrate your /home and /usr/local directories to the Debian side, and reclaim RH system directories. `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] [link\|http://kmself.ix.netcom.com/\|[link\|http://kmself.ix.netcom.com/"\|http://kmself.ix.netcom.com/"]] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?`
Post #22,705 by imric 12/30/01 9:38:07 AM Reply	Bummer. I'd think that a script that converted to Debian/apt from Redhat/rpm would be... useful. (I don't mean simply alien, of course). I was kinda hoping for something that automates [link\|http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/3328/rh5todeb-howto.txt\|something like this]... grin Ah, well. The laptop is working well anyway. I can do without for now! Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
Post #22,710 by kmself 12/30/01 11:52:45 AM Reply	From what I can tell The post you link to describes a process similar to that I used, without the insulation provided by building up the Debian installation seperately. Again, the story is that a package management system manages packages. Having conflicting management systems on the same box, controlling the same files, is going to lead to conflicts. Keep things seperated out. What exactly are you trying to do? `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] [link\|http://kmself.ix.netcom.com/\|[link\|http://kmself.ix.netcom.com/"\|http://kmself.ix.netcom.com/"]] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?`
Post #22,714 by imric 12/30/01 2:24:56 PM Reply	Ok - I was just wondering if there was a way to automagically move things around, symlink, and/or read the RH rpm database to 'direct' apt-get, so that a system could be moved from RH to a Debian-like system that could use apt-get - keeping the same versions of the software installed, and still able to use software compiled/installed outside of either package management system. Once moved, I would anticipate dropping rpm and use apt, so keeping the two sync'ed wouldn't be an obstacle. Just an idle thought... Imric's Tips for Living Paranoia Is a Survival Trait Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised... Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

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