Post #22,160
12/20/01 9:26:34 PM
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M$ sues Lindows over name.
[link|http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20011220/tc/microsoft_sues_linux_start-up_over_name_1.html|Article]
[link|http://www.lindows.com|Lindows] is a startup that plans to distribute a Linux distribution relying heavily on the [link|http://www.winehq.com|WINE] project. Thier aim is an OS choice for users wanting to run M$ applications.
Micro$oft claims the name is a direct violation of the Windows trademark.
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Steve
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Post #22,237
12/21/01 1:02:02 PM
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Ah well
at least they didn't call it Winux/Winix or something like that?
How about WINEIX? Or LINWE?
They may have a better time taking ODIN and WINE and making it into one system that can be ported between operating systems. Instead of making an OS that can run Windows, they can make an environment that can run Windows applications and exist for Linux, *BSD, OSX, OS/2, Plan9, BeOS, and others.
"Before Christmas it is 'Ho ho ho', after Christmas it is 'Owe owe owe'" - Santa Norm
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Post #22,259
12/21/01 11:12:31 PM
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How about L-Windows?
X-Windows came out in 1984 before MS Windows 1.0 although I imagine MIT did not register the trade mark.
Of course orginal Windows was a rip-off of MacOS.
So who is stealing what?
Alex
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
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Post #22,264
12/22/01 12:47:38 AM
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First . . .
. . Windows was not a rip-off of the Mac, it was first demo'd (though the demo was mostly faked) in early 1983 under the name "Interface Manager". It was a crash program inspired by a demo of VisiCorp's VisiOn windowing application manager at Comdex fall 1992.
The name Lindows is an obvious and blatant attempt to make hay off the name of the market leading product. Nobody'd give a second look to Lindows under any other name. Microsoft is in the right here and would easily prevail in court if it ever got to court, which it will not, because Lindows has nothing whatever going for it.
Lindows is an absolutely stupid concept. If you want to run primarily Windows software, run it under Windows. Lindows will never reach a stage of compatibility and performance that will be useful. Windows compatibility within Linux is useful for occasional use, not primary use.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #22,276
12/22/01 4:15:11 AM
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They are all ripoff artists
I think you meant 1982 when VisiOn was demoed and not 1992.
[link|http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Office/7101/|In 1981 Xerox had its PARC labs design a GUI to be used in its Altos/Star systems]. Apple was working on a GUI on a modified "Apple II" system before Windows, [link|http://members.fortunecity.com/pcmuseum/vision.htm|VisiOn], or the Macintosh/Lisa came out, but it was very primative. But Xerox had its GUI before Apple, and before that in the 1960's many college students wrote papers on the GUI. More info [link|http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~amulet/papers/uihistory.tr.html|A brief history of human computer interaction technology]
it is all one big mess. Don't forget GEM, GeOS, the early Amiga Workbench, and many others. AmigaDOS may have come out in 1985, but the developers of the Amiga had a GUI long before that but couldn't find a buyer. [link|http://area51.upsu.plym.ac.uk/~moosie/amiga/ahistory.htm|They started it in 1982] got a [link|http://amiga.emugaming.com/lorraine.html|prototype in 1983 named Lorraine] and turned it into the Amiga 1000 in 1985 after Commodore bought them out.
Hey, when did Deskmate come out from Tandy? Wasn't it like a primative GUI?
[link|http://pla-netx.com/linebackn/guis/|The graphical user interface galley] shows as many GUIs as are documented in existance.
"Before Christmas it is 'Ho ho ho', after Christmas it is 'Owe owe owe'" - Santa Norm
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Post #22,278
12/22/01 6:00:12 AM
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They didn't register the trademark...
...because it's not called "X-Windows", never has, and never will be. From the man page: The X Consortium requests that the following names be used
when referring to this software:
X
X Window System
X Version 11
X Window System, Version 11
X11
X Window System is a trademark of X Consortium, Inc.
Peter
Shill For Hire
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
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Post #22,293
12/22/01 1:43:02 PM
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OK then, how about Nifty Doorways? :)
Alex
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
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Post #22,302
12/22/01 7:11:03 PM
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Love. It.
Maybe Chris can arrange a certain royalty and..
With that imprimatur, who could complain about er poor service?
(And who.. could 'sue' --> confirming that Nify Doorways and the Evul Empire are indeed one and the same ??) er
Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle..
BONUS: more folks (who need to..) would discover Help Desk and note that Windoze rhymes with crash, rhymes with cas$
So.. who's gonna broker the deal?
Ashton
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Post #24,477
1/15/02 3:06:49 PM
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M$ demands Lindows database of clients
[link|http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20020115/tc/lindows_seeks_to_dismiss_microsoft_suit_1.html|Article]
...Microsoft, as part of its lawsuit, demanded that Lindows reveal its database of names, e-mail addresses and physical addresses for parties interested in Lindows' software...
I'm thinking M$ deems this a threat larger than the name issue.
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Steve
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Post #24,489
1/15/02 4:46:15 PM
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Or they want to shake down users for licenses... ChaChing.
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Post #24,501
1/15/02 5:25:30 PM
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Or they want to spam them with offers for Windows XP
instead of Lindows? Hey maybe there are a few out there that haven't heard of Microsoft or Windows XP yet? They'll most likely send them spam about Windows XP and why it is better than Linux?
"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
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Post #24,538
1/15/02 9:56:47 PM
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I seem to recall . .
Microsoft was, a few years ago, adding a clause "To be run only on a Microsoft operating system" to their desktop products. This means it would be a violation of license to run Office on Lindows, which might make quite a court case if someone had enough money to take Microsoft on.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #24,662
1/16/02 7:59:57 PM
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But what about WINE, WABI, ODIN?
Can you run it (if you can that is) on one of them without violating their license?
What about Virtual PC or Win4Lin that uses 95/98 installs to run under Linux or MacOS?
"Will code Visual BASIC for cash."
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Post #24,514
1/15/02 6:13:59 PM
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Geez, talk about putting the F into FUD...
On and on and on and on,
and on and on and on goes John.
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