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New I wish you hadn't done that.
You see, I DO possess the ability to admit when I'm wrong.
So, I guess you are inferring I don't posses the ability. Thanks, Skip. Nice guy, there.
As for my mind being pre-concieved, well, at least I've given this some thought, and have pondered the consequences.
So, I haven't. Thanks. I guess I am a stupid idiot.

I see how it is.
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New Why not? According to you, I am a BSD 'biggot'
Don't go 'holier than thou' on me, Greg.

"you are turning into Brett Glass BSD License Biggot^H^H^H^H^H^HZealot^H^H^H^H^H^HSupporter."

Indeed.

It could be that you have no idea how offensive that is to me after my last clash with Glass, on IWE. After simply asking him a question. Perhaps you didn't catch the derision, the scorn, the shame I tried to invoke with my comment 'Brett Glass was right'.

You pissed me off, and that takes doing.

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Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 


New For that reference, I apologize.
But the rest of the stuff still does stands.

To me it felt like I was arguing with him all over again... Like I asid I apologize for the dissing I gave you in comparing you to Brett.
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New Thanks, Greg.
I apologise as well.

But all my points stand, too.

The FSF knows the possibility of a licensing fork over this issue - that's why they have been makng soothing noises, lately.

GPLv2=good

GPLv3=unknown; if the web services clause is anything like what is being discussed on the net, it's big trouble IMO. I am neither alone, nor foolish in my misgivings.
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
]
Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 


New Best to give your input and then switch to...
wait and see mode.
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New *grin* After realizing that
the thing that had given me the shivers was the AGPL, and the rest of what I'd heard was just rumor and conjecture, I'd already decided to do just that.

The only reason I continued the discussion, really, was that the idea that running=distribution really bothered me; with that change in definition, then the GPLv2 becomes what I fear.

Again, the reason I fear it is NOT because it's immoral, illegal or anything like that, just that I would like to see a lot more developers employed, and customising GPLed software by non ISVs would (IMO) trigger just that. I'd like to see the GPL as the instrument that 'saves' the industry (in particular I'd have a lot of fun rubbing the 'Glass-types' noses in it... *chuckle*).

I agree that 'wait and see' is definately more appropriate, though.
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
]
Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 


     BTW, this discussion should really be moved to - (imric) - (19)
         Mkay. - (folkert) - (17)
             Greg, Greg. - (imric) - (16)
                 since the source of java applets by nature is - (boxley) - (3)
                     Hmm dunno 'bout open - (imric)
                     No, the source isn't. - (admin) - (1)
                         the point is silent as well as not mattering :-) -NT - (boxley)
                 Not really - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                     I know - but that was Greg's - (imric)
                 Profit means many things. - (folkert) - (9)
                     C'mon, now. - (imric) - (8)
                         I did mean monies for simplicity. - (folkert) - (7)
                             Ok. Whatever. - (imric) - (6)
                                 I wish you hadn't done that. - (folkert) - (5)
                                     Why not? According to you, I am a BSD 'biggot' - (imric) - (4)
                                         For that reference, I apologize. - (folkert) - (3)
                                             Thanks, Greg. - (imric) - (2)
                                                 Best to give your input and then switch to... - (folkert) - (1)
                                                     *grin* After realizing that - (imric)
         Might I suggest Religion now. - (bepatient)

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